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re: Which would you rather?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 5:18 pm to corndeaux
Posted on 1/12/17 at 5:18 pm to corndeaux
I shouldn't be posting on my phone, lol.
The draft is a big crapshoot, but picking late doesn't deny you the opportunity of finding a gem or quality player, trading it does though. If you find a quality player, you get them for cheap for 4-5 years and typically it will fill a need on your team (SF - Dekker for example). It also wouldn't have limited us financially to spend $$ on a second need (C - Asik when he's a free agent). I mean bird rule and such, but I believe we had space to sign him with a little wiggle room (letting Ajinca walk, etc).
By trading away picks, we lose the rookie scale (Dekker) to guarantee one position is shored (Asik), but the worst part is, we invested money for a SF who wasn't even a complete player...he was literally as much of a project signing as a draft pick. Except we pay him 3-4 times as much as a rookie...
The draft is a big crapshoot, but picking late doesn't deny you the opportunity of finding a gem or quality player, trading it does though. If you find a quality player, you get them for cheap for 4-5 years and typically it will fill a need on your team (SF - Dekker for example). It also wouldn't have limited us financially to spend $$ on a second need (C - Asik when he's a free agent). I mean bird rule and such, but I believe we had space to sign him with a little wiggle room (letting Ajinca walk, etc).
By trading away picks, we lose the rookie scale (Dekker) to guarantee one position is shored (Asik), but the worst part is, we invested money for a SF who wasn't even a complete player...he was literally as much of a project signing as a draft pick. Except we pay him 3-4 times as much as a rookie...
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 5:20 pm
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 5:47 pm to htran90
opportunity cost is dells undoing in team building
none of his gambles (and they have been gambles) have worked
it didn't have to be this way
none of his gambles (and they have been gambles) have worked
it didn't have to be this way
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:10 pm to htran90
I would love for the pels to make the playoffs and then find a gem in the draft like y'all are saying but what are the odds of that happening. There is no past example of the pelicans being able to find a good player while drafting in the teens. And I really don't trust the gm to bring in the players we need to make a serious playoff run.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:04 am to htran90
Another point on drafts, you also can't look at who was drafted at/around our pick and say that's who we would have ended up. Buy trading it, we also miss out on other potential offers for the pick during the draft.
Example, Nuggets went into that 2015 draft with picks 11 and 42. Came out with Gary Harris, Nurkic, and Jokic.
Example, Nuggets went into that 2015 draft with picks 11 and 42. Came out with Gary Harris, Nurkic, and Jokic.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 7:35 am to htran90
gotcha- I agree. they have to start cultivating players internally. 2 top 34 picks in back to back drafts is a great way to start building up depth/culture
im not as down on Hill as most seem to be. like his defense a lot. offense has been fine (relative to his skill) for me. then again, I wasn't expecting him to be the offensive 3 everyone wants.
i think he's clearly a better player than Dekker right now. but cost matters. growth matters. so we'll see how it shakes out over the next few years
im not as down on Hill as most seem to be. like his defense a lot. offense has been fine (relative to his skill) for me. then again, I wasn't expecting him to be the offensive 3 everyone wants.
i think he's clearly a better player than Dekker right now. but cost matters. growth matters. so we'll see how it shakes out over the next few years
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