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re: Which would you rather?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:26 am to BallHawk
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:26 am to BallHawk
You can't go back and say these are the guys he passed up on, and then select, IN HINDSIGHT, the best players from that draft, sometimes picked 10-20 positions away from where our pick was or would have been.
the 2011 draft was the one to get a really good player in, and it likely wouldn't have made us any better the following year so we would have still gotten AD. DMo/Faried/Mirotic/Jackson/Harris
In 2012, if they don't take Rivers, they take Lamb, and both are moot. From the Rivers pick on down, there wasn't a really good player until 25 picks later with Draymond. There's a few role players, but no difference makers.
Missing out on someone like Crowder/Draymond/Middleton is a good example. There are plenty of really good players drafted in the 2nd round in the NBA today, yet we keep giving away 2nds for nothing.
2013 draft, had we not traded for jrue, would have have MCW or Trey Burke, both underwhelming. We weren't drafting Noel.
Pierre Jackson was a nice find.
2014 draft, had we not traded jrue, and then drafted a PG, likely would have been a big guy like Nurkic, or maybe would have been Saric or McDermot. Jokic was sitting there for that 2nd round pick that we didn't have.
2015 Asik pick would have likely been Dekkar, or Justin Anderson, or Bobby Portis, or Rondae Hollis Jefferson. That would have been nice, but nothign special
2016 great pick in Hield, and while I like Diallo, I thought it was beyond retarded to trade 39 and 40 to get the 33rd pick.
He hasn't drafted that bad. outside of Rivers.
it's the trading away of picks that's been bad, especially in the 2nd round.
If Jrue was healthy, he's still a much better option than MCW/Burke and then someone like Nurkic or McDermot.
the 2011 draft was the one to get a really good player in, and it likely wouldn't have made us any better the following year so we would have still gotten AD. DMo/Faried/Mirotic/Jackson/Harris
In 2012, if they don't take Rivers, they take Lamb, and both are moot. From the Rivers pick on down, there wasn't a really good player until 25 picks later with Draymond. There's a few role players, but no difference makers.
Missing out on someone like Crowder/Draymond/Middleton is a good example. There are plenty of really good players drafted in the 2nd round in the NBA today, yet we keep giving away 2nds for nothing.
2013 draft, had we not traded for jrue, would have have MCW or Trey Burke, both underwhelming. We weren't drafting Noel.
Pierre Jackson was a nice find.
2014 draft, had we not traded jrue, and then drafted a PG, likely would have been a big guy like Nurkic, or maybe would have been Saric or McDermot. Jokic was sitting there for that 2nd round pick that we didn't have.
2015 Asik pick would have likely been Dekkar, or Justin Anderson, or Bobby Portis, or Rondae Hollis Jefferson. That would have been nice, but nothign special
2016 great pick in Hield, and while I like Diallo, I thought it was beyond retarded to trade 39 and 40 to get the 33rd pick.
He hasn't drafted that bad. outside of Rivers.
it's the trading away of picks that's been bad, especially in the 2nd round.
If Jrue was healthy, he's still a much better option than MCW/Burke and then someone like Nurkic or McDermot.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 9:29 am
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:54 am to TeddyPadillac
I'm not saying they should have made those picks in hindsight. I'm saying trading away those picks had the team miss out on the possibility of selecting those guys or using them to the advantage if someone else wanted them in our spot. We had opportunities to accumulate assets but didn't.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:56 am to TeddyPadillac
Nice post.
Agreed, really hard to judge Demps on ability to draft b/c he's just traded so many picks.
2015 is the big miss.
This saves us what, over $20M dollars...? Dekkar, RHJ, Anderson can all do what we are paying Solomon Hill $12M to do. We are paying Asik 7 figures to not play.
Yes, you can get lucky with a Jokic, Draymond, Middleton etc in the draft. Those are the rare exceptions. The more picks you have, the more likely you are able to find those key role players that can save you 10s of millions of dollars.
Agreed, really hard to judge Demps on ability to draft b/c he's just traded so many picks.
2015 is the big miss.
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2015 Asik pick would have likely been Dekkar, or Justin Anderson, or Bobby Portis, or Rondae Hollis Jefferson. That would have been nice, but nothign special
This saves us what, over $20M dollars...? Dekkar, RHJ, Anderson can all do what we are paying Solomon Hill $12M to do. We are paying Asik 7 figures to not play.
Yes, you can get lucky with a Jokic, Draymond, Middleton etc in the draft. Those are the rare exceptions. The more picks you have, the more likely you are able to find those key role players that can save you 10s of millions of dollars.
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