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Class score 299.89 If we get

Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:12 pm
Posted by Skillz22
Member since Dec 2016
53 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:12 pm
Marvin Wilson
Phidarian Mathis
K'lavon chaisson
Willie gay
Jacob Phillips
Will ignont
Devonta Smith
Travis Etienne
Todd harris

I pray this happens would give us a Class score of 299.89 and that wouldn't change much if you swapped ignont with another 4 star LB
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:14 pm to
Isn't he committed somewhere already? There smoke or something?
Posted by Skillz22
Member since Dec 2016
53 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:19 pm to
I swapped ignont with Ellis Brooks and it went to 299.85
Posted by Skillz22
Member since Dec 2016
53 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:20 pm to
RaT team wannabe who and what are you talking about??
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:37 pm to
Why do you have Ignont when he is committed elsewhere?
Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
7267 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 1:12 am to
We aren't getting all those guys. Stop with the points. They don't matter. It's about filling needs. We will have a talented class. You have to realize we won't land all of those guys right? Why fool yourself. We go through this every single year. All these predictions and shite is ridiculous. This is all a game. It's a bunch of kids. Who gives a shite about a point rating of 299.89? What does that have to do with first downs? The season is not about a recruiting point scale. We always get talented players. It's about player development and coaching. We have wasted gobs of talent because of poor arse coaching. Not because we didn't have enough recruiting points.
Posted by TigerinDunbarton
Dunbarton
Member since Sep 2016
1735 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 4:12 am to
Why does it bother you so much? You ever heard of putting goals down on paper? No, I would think you have. I'm not into points either, but he obviously is. Also, you seem like one of those who thinks it is more about the X's and O's than the Jimmy and joes and you are dead wrong. Saban is a good coach, a very damn good coach, but I GUARANTEE you that Alabama isn't close to what they have been without having by far the best roster of any college team. If he had LSU's roster over the last several years he would not have won near as much because we have not had the interior talent...or should I say the Jimmy and joes
Posted by HighlandRD_ZERO25
Member since Jun 2016
622 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 5:18 am to
Seeing as it definitely matters exactly which players you are coaching and developing, whether its a point scale or any other way to grade an incoming class...it is the lifeblood of any program. Alabama has what 6 consensus overall classes in a row?? And while saban is obviously a great college coach and player development guru at this level...give him Maryland's roster and see if his coaching is really the thing here....you like him would see that the players you salivate over like the OPs list there are what made this run possible...in the end and there really is no arguing it..talent wins out. LSU can legitimately pull a top 3 consensus nationally ranked player to start, and if that alone wasn't enough to dream about, the other guys there are all 4 star players ranked in the top 10 to 30 at their positions....closing out with a list like that is what will really take your program from three losses to undefeated in a relatively small time. The "we always get good players" thing....is honestly the most ignorant and asinine stance in regards to absolutely the most detail oriented and meticulously worked part of the collective whole that is the program. Maybe landing a player like Marvin Wilson will not have a severe impact on the team or be a detriment in any way, because who knows how he turns out and wed have other guys anyway..blah blah blah...the deal is a player like that if what the collective scouting world who all agree will be an instant impact nightmare for any program and will be at the least a rotational player from the start is what separates the Bamas and alike from where we are, which is right a step behind in true talent roster spot by roster spot. Its why Les miles despite his coaching flaws and amazingly bad coaching and development he oversaw here was able to win as much as he did...because three to five consensus five star players per class that averages a 90 overall per player rating made his problems an acceptable idea...as long as he pulled in those guys each class then averages say the talent will win in spite of poor coaching. Dream bro. Dream away. Keep us striving for a day where we catch up truly to the programs that have passed us by since 2011.
Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
7918 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 6:02 am to
9for9
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 6:34 am to
Man there are some miserable fricks on this board for some reason

ETA
The entire point of this board is for discussion. Nobody is making any of you click a thread and forcing you to read anything. If you're a "sit back and wait until signing day guy" then take your own advice and avoid this place until signing day.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 7:41 am
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19141 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 6:40 am to
kind of going off on a tangent here, but a related tangent...
quote:

whether its a point scale or any other way to grade an incoming class...it is the lifeblood of any program. Alabama has what 6 consensus overall classes in a row?? And while saban is obviously a great college coach
To me those consecutive classes is the key. That's studs at most position and studs 2 deep. It enhances that development. If you're a coach with a 2 deep almost as qualified player, you play him and he gets experience faster and developed 'better'.

As far as the points on the ranking, well, it's worth noting. Sometimes the gap between #1 and #2 is huge. Example: in 2013 the gap between #1 Bama and #2 tOSU was 16pts, while the gap between #2 and #3 UF was 8pts. In 2014 #1 and #2 LSU was 20pts, #2 and #3 tOSU was 3pts. While not entirely accurate and a good predictor, you can correlate the difference to the field. Those two example classes are the core & bench of this playoff teams.
Posted by TigerinDunbarton
Dunbarton
Member since Sep 2016
1735 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 7:10 am to
No man, rankings don't matter. Just have to coach them up and develop them....remember that 3 star that went to NFL....proof right there than stars don't matter. Lol
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
9566 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 7:12 am to
College football is 85% recruiting and 15% coaching. The statistics prove it.

As they say, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shite...
Posted by EyeoftheEldrick12
Member since Jul 2012
1949 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:17 am to
quote:

9for9


frick it, i'll ride for this. unlikely, but sometimes you have to go all in.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34878 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:21 am to
quote:

You ever heard of putting goals down on paper?



I actually started doing this recently, and it's an interesting topic probably meant for the OT so I won't get into it here, but I've found that it makes a huge difference IRL...


Maybe not so much for recruiting though
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 9:22 am
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:26 am to
100% does, may be the best NY resolution I've ever done.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34878 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:29 am to
That was mine too I actually started in December though, so my NYR was to keep it up
Posted by Skillz22
Member since Dec 2016
53 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 3:55 pm to
Yea you was seriously thinking he wasn't coming and now he is coming for a visit and will prolly flip on the spot
Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
7267 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Why does it bother you so much? You ever heard of putting goals down on paper? No, I would think you have. I'm not into points either, but he obviously is. Also, you seem like one of those who thinks it is more about the X's and O's than the Jimmy and joes and you are dead wrong. Saban is a good coach, a very damn good coach, but I GUARANTEE you that Alabama isn't close to what they have been without having by far the best roster of any college team. If he had LSU's roster over the last several years he would not have won near as much because we have not had the interior talent...or should I say the Jimmy and joes


You can GUARANTEE nothing. You obviously missed my point. They have beat us 6 years in a row. There is more than one way to win a football game. Putting goals down on paper?? Lol. Yes I do that with real life things. Not imaginary recruiting finishes lol. The discrepancy in talent is not nearly as great as you seem to think. Alabama has beaten us because of coaching. We have lost to Arky and Ole Miss recently because of coaching. Are you kidding me? How old are you? Your comment was ill concieved. Like I give a shite if some message board idiots downvote me. I'm right. Don't care if u disagree.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 4:19 pm
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22193 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

It's about filling needs.


...all of which on that list are needs.
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