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re: Unbanned - BigScrub here to eat BigCrow
Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:08 pm to Wolfhound45
Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:08 pm to Wolfhound45
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Militant Islam is a problem.
I think this is a tough one to define. The most hardcore of the hardcore Islamic terrorists aren't doing this:
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encircled the globe with a militant destruction
actually quite the opposite, they are focusing on very specific geographic locations with the goal of far reaching political change. ie 911.
Most of the globe encircling has been the western powers, lead by the US. I see this as just as much a problem as Islamic terrorism, because it gets us into messes that can't be cleaned up with bombs or by saying nice things (which is what liberals think will work).
I think our battle is not at all with Islam, but instead with unpredictable, non state political actors who are trying to form the beginning of a large scale war of movement against the western powers through acts of terrorism. It's these people, not their religion, that is the issue. When we don't admit that we get sidetracked from focusing on the very real issues that spawn support for these violent groups in the first place. We give them legitimacy when we focus on the idea of religion (which is impossible to pin down, and thus a useful tool for both sides) and not the actions of the criminal actors themselves. I think it's just too easy to say "well the problem is Islam" or that it is some particular brand of Islam. The problem is the actors, not the ideas. We have actors doing similar things from all backgrounds, races, religions, and economic circumstances, but it's rarely discussed how similar groups like the FARC are to ME terrorist or insurgency groups actually are. Why is that? A combination of reasons, one of them certainly being their affinity for using the predominant religion of the area as a unifying tool. Marxists use the same tool, and Christians have used it for evil before as well.
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And until militant group Islam demonstrates it can peacefully coexist with other expressions of faith it will be treated with suspicion. It is that simple.
We will forever be dealing with these people in some capacity. Terrorism and extremist (violent) ideologies are one of the few tools available for disrupting states that are as powerful as ours in the West. It's just the nature of the beast unfortunately. I think it's a bad idea to import a bunch of poor and most likely stupid people into the US while simultaneously bombing the ever lovin shite out of the places from which they just left.
Anyhoo, just my opinion. Did you guys have a good Christmas?
This post was edited on 12/27/16 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:28 pm to MrCarton
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Most of the globe encircling has been the western powers, lead by the US. I see this as just as much a problem as Islamic terrorism, because it gets us into messes that can't be cleaned up with bombs or by saying nice things (which is what liberals think will work).
As true as that is, you won't win many minds over on this board with that kind of talk.
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Did you guys have a good Christmas?
The highlight of my Christmas was when I stopped by a Muslim run convenience store in New Orleans to buy some ice for my trip home. I intentionally picked the Muslim run store being fairly certain they wouldn't be observing Christmas, and would be open.
After I paid for the ice, the next person in line, who happened to be a big fat bald black man with a thick black beard, stepped up to the counter and in a loud voice proclaimed to the proprietors, "Merry Christmas, bitches!"
It made me laugh out loud, and when I turned around to look at him, he gave me a wink and a laugh.
Santa Claus truly is a black man.
...and frick the haters!
Posted on 12/27/16 at 4:46 pm to MrCarton
"Most of the globe encircling has been done by the Western Powers led by the U.S.". Please provide the name of the country that the U.S. recently encircled & took over, physically or politically? Too, those "hardcore Islamic terrorists": who exactly are they screaming loud & clear that they want to kill in the name of Allah? Just those in very specific geographic locations? Like Belgium. France. Germany. England. America, Greece, just to name a few specific locations outside the Middle East.
Posted on 12/27/16 at 8:30 pm to MrCarton
I love you to death brother. And I respect your opinion above most on this board, particularly on this subject. But militant Islam as a means to spread dissatisfaction along many lines of effort. It is cancerous in it's effect. Similar to Progressivism, it ccnstantly finds fault with the (for lack of a better term) status quo. It is destructive in nature. Where you and I agree is that we are permitting ourselves to be drawn into these inconsequential fights that prevent us from focusing on the defense of our Nation. We are being bled dry over these battles that have little to nothing to do with our vital National interests, but everything to do with (tinfoil hat on) the MIC and ME economics/politics. Like any spoiled child, we are giving these terrorists more attention than they deserve. They have no means to truly harm our country. They are not a near peer. They are a nuisance that we give too much attention to.
And we had a great Christmas. Both of my children came in from college. I could not have asked for a better present.
/rant off
And we had a great Christmas. Both of my children came in from college. I could not have asked for a better present.
/rant off
Posted on 12/27/16 at 10:58 pm to MrCarton
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religions, and economic circumstances, but it's rarely discussed how similar groups like the FARC are to ME terrorist or insurgency groups actually are. Why is that? A combination of reasons, one of them certainly
Farc is a regional group while Muslim terror is worldwide. Farc matters to people in Columbia and surrounding areas. Everyday it's Muslims this and Muslims that. People are sick of hearing it. The Left's love affair with Islam is some sinister arse shite. They are bringing them here knowing full well that the Muslims are going to go off on an innocent public.
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