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Trump's Obamaphone plan
Posted on 12/15/16 at 9:20 am
Posted on 12/15/16 at 9:20 am
Posted on 12/15/16 at 9:21 am to Palmetto08
Yep, get your arse to work you worthless mooches.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 9:31 am to Palmetto08
This one is so simple.
Keep the Lifeline Assistance Plan
No smartphones allowed
No data or texting
250 minutes then emergency calls only
You would solve the Obamaphone problem overnight, but you wouldn't sell as many iPhones and Galaxys.
Keep the Lifeline Assistance Plan
No smartphones allowed
No data or texting
250 minutes then emergency calls only
You would solve the Obamaphone problem overnight, but you wouldn't sell as many iPhones and Galaxys.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 9:40 am to anc
Is someone is getting a free phone it should be deducted from whatever other govt assistance they're getting.
We give too much shite away for free in this country.
We give too much shite away for free in this country.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 9:44 am to Palmetto08
What if those phones can be used by Trump to communicate HIS desired information and end-run the MSM...like he does with Twitter? Or even to establish verified contact and official access to their (the subsidized holders) whole Government personal account (which would then give a TRUE numerical accounting for Public information)?
An individual can even be tracked, say to monitor whether or not they attend (required) classes/programs which are qualifiers for subsidization).
Those phones can create a DIRECT AND VERIFIED CONTACT between Government and the Individual. That has a lot of implications...not all good for just the Progressive Ideological hegemony. Just like in a good Martial Art technique...one's turns the momentum of the attacker into a force against them.
An individual can even be tracked, say to monitor whether or not they attend (required) classes/programs which are qualifiers for subsidization).
Those phones can create a DIRECT AND VERIFIED CONTACT between Government and the Individual. That has a lot of implications...not all good for just the Progressive Ideological hegemony. Just like in a good Martial Art technique...one's turns the momentum of the attacker into a force against them.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:05 am to Palmetto08
They're actually Bushphones but in fairness Obama did EXPAND it a great deal
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:29 am to anc
quote:
but you wouldn't sell as many iPhones and Galaxys.
Those phones are included in the Obamophone program???
Posted on 12/15/16 at 11:28 am to idlewatcher
quote:Inquiring minds want to know.
Those phones are included in the Obamophone program???
Even if not, this is a prime example of a gov't program and "the slippery slope."
The phone program began with Reagan, if I recall, for landlines, so that those unable to afford one would have access to quick communication in the event of emergency. The rest of us pay a fee on our phone bills to cover part of the cost.
From there it grew to free cellphones for their convenience, with no (or minimal) oversight to insure the beneficiaries were truly unable to afford them. From what I've read, it's pretty easy to get more than one phone per "customer," too.
This program needs to be scaled back. WAY back. Actually, discontinued, but we all know that won't happen.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 12:04 pm to TigerTattle
quote:
This program needs to be scaled back. WAY back. Actually, discontinued, but we all know that won't happen.
The opposite is happening, the program was scaled up this month and will continue to grow over the next few years.
Some facts about the program (from www.obamaphone.com):
-U.S. citizenship is not a requirement to receive an Obamaphone.
-The largest company, Safelink Wireless, has 3.6 million customers, and is owned by Tracfone, a company owned by the richest man in the world, Mexico’s Carlos Slim.
-Most companies offer 250 minutes of talk and text a month, but recently more minutes and 1,000 texts to even unlimited texts are being offered.
-Some California companies offer has the best deal in the country — unlimited talk and unlimited texting.
-The Lifeline program is not taxpayer-funded. It is funded by the Universal Service Fund fees that are required by law to be collected by telecommunications companies. The fund is used for various telecommunication projects, including Lifeline Assistance.
-Far from being killed, the Obama Phone program is getting bigger and more robust. Obama Broadband will be here on December 1, 2016 and it will deliver newer, better, smarter cell phones, more minutes, more texts and broadband service.
-Within the next 30 days, every Obama Phone customer will receive a minimum of 500 minutes. On December 1, 2017 that minimum will increase to 750 minutes, and on December 1, 2018 it will increase to 1000 minutes.
-But in place of voice-only service, the Lifeline program will morph into a new Obama Broadband program that offers you free government cell phones and high-speed broadband service that come bundled together.
-These opinions were prompted by a Georgetown University study and quoted in a report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office. According to the study, “…in the absence of the subsidy, only one in eight Lifeline households would not have phone service.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 12:09 pm to anc
quote:
No smartphones allowed
Karl Malone supports
Posted on 12/15/16 at 12:10 pm to Palmetto08
quote:
Here’s the scoop:
Yes, there is a law in place to help low-income customers have access to basic telephone service. It’s divided into two programs: Link-Up America and Lifeline.
Link-Up assists consumers with the installation costs of phone service. The program pays up to $30 of the cost of installation and up to $200 in the form of a one year, interest-free loan for additional installation costs.
Lifeline provides discounts on basic monthly service at a primary residence for qualified telephone customers. These discounts can be up to $10.00 per month, or more for certain Native Americans. Generally, to qualify, your income must be at or below 135% of the federal poverty guidelines (these vary by location and size of family but for comparison, rings in at $22,350 for a family of four in the lower 48).
In some instances, coverage may include discounts for cell phone service instead of land lines at primary residences because realistically, cell phone service is less expensive in some areas than traditional service. Eligibility and type of program may vary from state to state – and this is why there is a flurry of confusion about the program being a product of the Obama administration. In Florida, for example, cell phone service was added to the existing program – in 2008, the year that Obama was elected to office. The conclusion from many folks was that it was a new federal program. It was not. It was an expansion of the existing program and implemented on a state by state basis.
The federal program dates back to 1996; it was part of the Telecommunications Act of 1996. The Act did a number of things, including increasing internet access to doctors and patients in rural hospitals (for consults with specialists); subsidizing internet and phone coverage for schools and libraries and providing free or subsidized coverage for families who can’t afford it so that they have links to emergency and government services. The Act was not taxpayer funded… exactly. Taxpayers do pay for coverage but not via federal income taxes. Instead, the Act “mandated the creation of the universal service fund (USF) into which all telecommunications providers are required to contribute a percentage of their interstate and international end-user telecommunications revenues.” So that little fee on your phone bill labeled USF? That’s what you’re paying for.
As you can imagine, not every one supports this idea. And yes, there has been abuse – you can read about efforts to curb abuse here (downloads as a pdf).
As a result, there is a bill in place to put an end to the practice. Introduced in November 18, 2011, by Rep. Tim Griffin (R-AR), the Stop Taxpayer Funded Cell Phones Act of 2011, has three co-sponsors, Rep. Rodney Alexander (R-LA), Rep. Bill Posey (R-FL) and Rep. Dennis Ross (R-FL). The text is as follows:
Prohibits a provider of commercial mobile communications service from receiving universal service support under specified provisions of the Communications Act of 1934 for the provision of such service through the Federal Communications Commission’s (FCC) Lifeline program (a program that provides discounts on monthly telephone service to qualifying low-income consumers).
The bill now sits in the House Committee on Energy and Commerce. I’m guessing it will sit awhile.
I am guessing the mothballs will be wiped clean from this bill now.
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