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re: Heroin deaths up 23% in one year

Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:44 pm to
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Ok, this is conclusive proof that the War on Drugs kills more than it saves. The failure on heroin and opiates particularly means we need to reevaluate everything in the War on Drugs. That is simply inexcusable. 23% spike in deaths? What the shite?



What is the alternative with heroin?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:47 pm to
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What is the alternative with heroin?


many of the deaths due to heroin are due to inconsistent strengths or adulterants. they were selling K as H in vancouver a few years ago, several people had ODs, although it really hard to die of a K overdose.

If we could regulate and monitor supply and usage, I think we could get deaths down. Might increase the user base though.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108962 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:49 pm to
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What is the alternative with heroin?



With opiates at large, for starters, doctors need to be held accountable more than they currently are in prescribing it. Heroin is just a part of the opiate addiction, but the cause is much larger than drug dealers. The average Americans addiction to prescription is the main cause of the opiate epidemic, not the fact that heroin is easy to find. The average guy isn't going to go out and shoot up heroin. It's the people in a world of shite that do that.

And also, we need to stop throwing every single person carrying some drugs straight into the joint. So some guy is found with half an ounce of heroin, and they throw him in the slammer for 2 years. He's going to come out way more fricked than he did going into it. Instead invest in rehab for these people instead of prison. It's absolutely insane to me that we don't do this.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:50 pm to
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What is the alternative with heroin?


It would take a serious reimagining of the American view of drug use.

There are chemicals out there that would reduce drug related crime and recidivism rates in the jails if the government would look at putting money towards rehabilitation instead of punishment.

NO amount of jail time has ever got an addict to stop being addicted to a chemical.

Maybe the threat of jail has and then they went into a program but jail in itself is not a treatment program.
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