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re: Did Orgeron mention a shadow staff or facility improvements?

Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:38 am to
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:38 am to
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Posted by SlowFlowPro online on 11/27/16 at 9:33 am to tigerbait2010 quote: However, this really bothers me. The guy can barely move, much less recruit. plus O is a great DL coach and it's not like he's going to be very burdened with coaching otherwise with our coordinators making $2M/year and running the team in his place. it's completely wasteful and redundant


He's gonna have a LOT of media obligations and other behind close door obligations to pay back the people who got him the job.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:39 am to
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so basically this recruiting cycle is a waste

what? no
Posted by Zaq
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:40 am to
I mean in terms of having a DL coach out there recruiting

I'd imagine the extra on field coach will have to be DL related to help Jenkins. But he won't help for this class
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:40 am to
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. He did not say we are keeping Ensminger, Jenkins


He told reporters this in his interview immediately after. Read anything Ross dellenger wrote or tweeted following

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He did not say anything about Craig.


He was asked in the PC about Craig being the recruiting coordinator. He got uncomfortable and said he'd re evaluate him after the bowl. Pay better attention next time.
Posted by Fus0623
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:41 am to
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keeping pete jenkins makes absolutely no sense whatsoever

He is so old (no disrespect). How can he relate to the currrent players in today's day and age?
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:42 am to
people said last night he got out of coaching years ago b/c he couldn't handle recruiting

but most importantly, WE HAVE A DL COACH. his name is Ed Orgeron
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:45 am to
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Juluke


Apparently O's nephew has been saying juluke is a buffoon on 247. So I guess he's out.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:45 am to
Yeah but Jenkins does seem to be one of the few guys O will go to and say "what do I do here" and will listen to pretty much whatever he says. Need at least 1 of those on staff and probably 2 or 3.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 9:46 am
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:46 am to
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Yeah but Jenkins does seem to be one of the few guys O will go to and say "what do I do here" and will listen. Need at least 1 of those on staff and probably 2 or 3.


He can be that with any job title. Only 9 guys or whatever can recruit and coach at practice etc.
Posted by Zaq
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:46 am to
My sources in Algiers love Juluke. Not as much as Frank Wilson, but still
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:47 am to
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Yeah but Jenkins does seem to be one of the few guys O will go to and say "what do I do here" and will listen. Need at least 1 of those on staff and probably 2 or 3.

bro, if we have Aranda and Kiffin next year, they will be making those calls

O will be riding in the backseat. his whole philosophy is to have superior coaches run the team on gameday. our 2 coordinators will be better coaches and more qualified HC candidates than our actual head coach. they're also both guys who were former bosses of O
Posted by neovenator250
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:48 am to
No way Raymond is going anywhere
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:48 am to
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He can be that with any job title. Only 9 guys or whatever can recruit and coach at practice etc.


If you're expecting things to make sense or follow any kind of logical pattern generally I think your expectations are too high. Ed Orgeron is the LSU coach. Let that sink in again.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:48 am to
Even before all this happened, it's understood that Jenkins won't recruit. Austin Thomas takes his place recruiting. There's someone else, his name escapes me.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:49 am to
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bro, if we have Aranda and Kiffin next year, they will be making those calls



I meant more in terms of overall program management
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:50 am to
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I meant more in terms of overall program management


a. my point still stands in that sphere

b. why would O listen to Jenkins for program management? what the hell does jenkins know about running a CFB team, let alone a modern one?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:51 am to
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it's understood that Jenkins won't recruit. Austin Thomas takes his place recruiting.

a. this is wasteful and redundant with O availalbe to coach the DL

b. can Thomas "recruit"? what kind of contact can he make? he's an admin right?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:52 am to
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a. my point still stands in that sphere

b. why would O listen to Jenkins for program management? what the hell does jenkins know about running a CFB team, let alone a modern one?



See my previous post about expectations
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:55 am to
well that goes in line with my comment earlier

it's one thing with Saban/Bama skirting rules and utilizing loopholes

we're trusting O and Kiffin with that responsibility? have we forgotten all the shite that we used to say about them? LSU gets hammered with sanctions when an early enrollee trolls us by committing to Bama, and that was with Les (who was pretty good about the rules and avoiding super dirty recruiting). now we have Kiffin and O running the show?
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:56 am to
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can Thomas "recruit"? what kind of contact can he make? he's an admin right?


No. he sucks. He can't recruit and he's had no hand in landing any recruits whatsoever, Skip Bayless
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