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re: if Kurt Cobain wouldn't have suicided?
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:32 pm to kingbob
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:32 pm to kingbob
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His death is what caused Temple of the Dog to form, which launched Eddie Vetter and Chris Cornell to prominance and spawned Pearl Jam and later Soundgarden. Without these 3 bands, the grunge movement that Nirvana became the standard barer for doesn't materialize, and Metal continues to dominate rock. Nirvana becomes a niche Seattle band with STP.
This timeline is all wrong. Soundgarden started in the mid 80s. Nirvana came before Pearl Jam too. Eddie Vedder and Chris Cornell were both well established stars by the time the Temple of the Dog album came out.
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:31 am to Brosef Stalin
Vetter and Cornell were around but virtually unknown outside of Seattle prior to Temple of the Dog. That's what gave them the notioriety for their bands to blow up and become national.
Nirvana was already around and becoming popular. However, without those other "grunge" bands, Nirvana is essentially a band without a genre. They're an indie act instead of the bannermen of the new genre of "grunge". Nirvana just ends up being some random Seattle band that made a few catchy songs. They get nowhere near as big. What drove their popularity was that MTV declared grunge the new thing and pimped it over metal, mostly with Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, STP, and Nirvana. Without those first 2 bands, there's not enough bands to promote to declare a new genre. Nirvana is just another late 80's indie punk band.
What would really be interesting is to see what would have happened to other "grunge" acts like Alice in Chains. Would they have been billed as metal? Would they have had the same success? What happens to the 80's metal acts that seemingly disappeared in 1991? Do they still remain in the public consciousness? Does MTv still abandon them?
Nirvana was already around and becoming popular. However, without those other "grunge" bands, Nirvana is essentially a band without a genre. They're an indie act instead of the bannermen of the new genre of "grunge". Nirvana just ends up being some random Seattle band that made a few catchy songs. They get nowhere near as big. What drove their popularity was that MTV declared grunge the new thing and pimped it over metal, mostly with Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, STP, and Nirvana. Without those first 2 bands, there's not enough bands to promote to declare a new genre. Nirvana is just another late 80's indie punk band.
What would really be interesting is to see what would have happened to other "grunge" acts like Alice in Chains. Would they have been billed as metal? Would they have had the same success? What happens to the 80's metal acts that seemingly disappeared in 1991? Do they still remain in the public consciousness? Does MTv still abandon them?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:40 am to Brosef Stalin
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His death is what caused Temple of the Dog to form, which launched Eddie Vetter and Chris Cornell to prominance and spawned Pearl Jam and later Soundgarden. Without these 3 bands, the grunge movement that Nirvana became the standard barer for doesn't materialize, and Metal continues to dominate rock. Nirvana becomes a niche Seattle band with STP.
This timeline is all wrong. Soundgarden started in the mid 80s. Nirvana came before Pearl Jam too. Eddie Vedder and Chris Cornell were both well established stars by the time the Temple of the Dog album came out.
If I remeber correctly, the Temple of the Dog album was made before Pearl Jam became huge and if memory serves they were still called the "Mookie Blaylocks" at the time lol.
The record didn't gain much attention till after Pearl Jam and Soundgarden got big. People went back and realized it was a collaboration between the two bands and started picking it up and it got more airplay.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 8:41 am
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:53 am to Brosef Stalin
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This timeline is all wrong. Soundgarden started in the mid 80s. Nirvana came before Pearl Jam too. Eddie Vedder and Chris Cornell were both well established stars by the time the Temple of the Dog album came out.
Yea his post hurt my head with how far off he was.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:14 pm to Brosef Stalin
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This timeline is all wrong. Soundgarden started in the mid 80s. Nirvana came before Pearl Jam too. Eddie Vedder and Chris Cornell were both well established stars by the time the Temple of the Dog album came out.
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