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re: 401k meeting today. Right way to ask about high fees??

Posted on 10/27/16 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by tirebiter
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Posted on 10/27/16 at 4:49 pm to
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Size of the plan is very inportant here. 10 people with avg balance of $5k is going to have higher percentage expenses than a $2m plan with $350k in flow, etc.


That's a given and why I included the employee count. Still, to pay 2.00% fund ERs plus whatever other fees are tacked on in today's world should be noncompetitive unless the employer is tiny and/or doesn't understand the true plan costs. Depending on the OP's tax bracket he may be better off with a TIRA or Roth as he gets no match and fund costs are shite. If it helps tax wise keep pushing for the adoption of better options.
Posted by 1609tiger
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/27/16 at 10:23 pm to
Ask for the 408 disclosure. All fee must be disclosed. Typical plan "all in" fees will depend on plan size. On average I see:

Under 1 million 2%

1-3 million 1.6 %

3-5 million 1.25%

Over 5 million 1.00 or less.

Those are averages. What a participant actually pays depends on his fund selection. More small cap and international will cost a little more, bond funds and index funds a little less.
This post was edited on 10/27/16 at 10:32 pm
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