re: I'm riding with Coach O

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People fail to acknowledge that at Ole Piss he had to build a program

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What makes you think that he wont have to do any rebuilding at LSU? What evidence sugests that O can run a program successfully for longer than an interim period? You are so quick to dismiss Herman or Jimbo over a few losses in their career but will happily annoint O without a PROVEN record of sustainability or success. I love coach O but he is not ready to be the head coach of a power 5 program, notably one of the best jobs in the country. If he were, other schools would have been beating the foor down to hire him for his services. Surely you could list those schools, right? You dont fire a successful head coach of a program after 12 years to settle for a career D-line coach. Let Ed go run a program somewhere else to prove himself, much as Coach Frank is doing, then we can consider him. This loaded team is SUPPOSED to win the majority of its games this year. Lets see O make a team full of 2 and 3 stars perform this good......wait he did at Ole Miss and had a 10-25 record.

I never realized people from Louisiana were so emotional

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I bet you crapped your pants when you were younger. I can assume you still crap your pants, right?

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This is typical Louisiana logic. Not crapping your pants and running a successful program in the most difficult conference in America with tens of millions of dollars at stake, is the same thing.

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Which of our current coaches did Coach O hire again? You're acting like Coach O has done the impossible by beating Mizzou (2-5), USM (4-3), and Ole Miss (3-4).

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O hired Hugh Freeze out of HS for Ole Miss. I bet a lot folks here think Freeze is a great coach.

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jizzed in their jorts

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This is typical Louisiana logic. Not crapping your pants and running a successful program in the most difficult conference in America with tens of millions of dollars at stake, is the same thing.

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Actually it's a ridiculous response to a ridiculous statement. The crowd that simply says he failed at Ole Miss, end of story put absolutely no thought to the Coach O debate. Or there's always a caveat to any possible thought that O be considered. You can provide statements from inside the program about implemented changes and they don't matter. If he wins out here it doesn't matter he has to go win somewhere else. Sustained success matters only for O, not Herman. Power conference success matters only for O, not Fleck.

O's not even my 1st or even 3rd choice. I think Jimbo has the best chance to come in and succeed without a step back. I'm just sick of the double standard and lack of appreciation for what O has done so far. He has a lot more to prove to be considered a legit candidate. To that I agree 100%.

With you.
Win out, and he's in.
Rep for the boot!

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Keep Jimbo and Tom far away from this program

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You is high

That is a pretty fair statement. I keep going back to the debate about whether Orgeron will be a big name nationally. Put it this way - if Miles was fired at the end of the season this year and LSU went our and hired an interim coach that finished 6-1 at Maryland or something, would that be acceptable?

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When you have a failure on your resume like Orgeron does with Ole Miss, you have to go and pay your dues in the same position somewhere else to show you have improved before you get a promotion! You dont just get to excuse something off of your resume and get an even better job, because it was a long time ago. Interim stuff doesnt count either. We have no idea if he can hire good coaches, run the program in the offseason, make sure kids keep their grades up, run a clean program etc. Some of you just want the guy you like to get the job, and thats fine. But stop bashing the people who think LSU can and should bring in someone with a successful background as a HC.

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See, now you've actually asked some legit questions.
Hiring coaches: He hired Freeze out of HS and now he's the HC of Ole Miss and consider ne of the top coaches in the country
Offseason: we don't know, but Moffit is singing his praises about what he's doing now and how the players are fresher and healing from injuries faster
Grades (accountability): Ask Valentine about accountability. Miles never called a player out in public. O has sent a statement that you will hold up your end of the bargain with the team or pay the price.
Run a clean program: I don't think Ole Miss got hit with sanctions while he was there but I could be wrong
We know he can recruit, we know he can motivate, we know he has SEC experience (bad and now good), we know he can work with a staff (he's admitted he had to change his approach), we know he can make tough decisions (he made the call to fire Cam and to drop your OC mid season regardless of what you think of him is a tough call), we know he's made adjustments to practice and he has discussed how he sat down with Ensminger to re-work the offense without an overhaul.

Any other questions? I'd much rather have a reasoned discussion than to just say "he failed at Ole Miss so there". I brought up how Saban and Belichek together at the Browns were fired before they became the pinnacles of the college and NFL world. That just shows how even the best have a learning curve and even the best have to be in the right situation to succeed.