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re: NFL Overtime Scenario: Opening with an onside kick, Can recov. team win w/ FG?
Posted on 10/16/16 at 11:11 pm to Cow Drogo
Posted on 10/16/16 at 11:11 pm to Cow Drogo
Hmm, now you got me reading the rulebook...
(e) The opportunity to possess applies only during kicking plays. A kickoff is the opportunity to possess for the receiving team. If the kicking team legally recovers the kick, the receiving team is considered to have had its opportunity.
(4) If the second team loses possession by an interception or fumble, but the first team committed a foul prior to the change of possession, the second team’s possession has not legally ended, and the game cannot end on the down. However, in certain situations (see Approved Ruling 16.24) the second team cannot decline the
penalty and accept the result of the play, no matter how beneficial, because it would create a second
possession for itself. It must accept the penalty enforcement, which will extend its initial possession.
(5) The situation in (4) may also affect the team that receives the opening kickoff during its first possession. If there is a foul by the second team followed by a double change of possession, and the first team declines the penalty and accepts the result of the play, the second team has had its required possession, and the first team has possession of the ball for the second time and needs only a field goal to win. However, if it accepts the penalty, it will extend its initial possession (see Approved Ruling 16.25).
TL;DR: Yes to both.
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Question 1
If someone were to open the overtime with an onside kick and recover it, is the game now sudden death and winnable by FG?(did that count as the receiving teams possession?
(e) The opportunity to possess applies only during kicking plays. A kickoff is the opportunity to possess for the receiving team. If the kicking team legally recovers the kick, the receiving team is considered to have had its opportunity.
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Question 2. (Totally different scenario)
Let's say the saints panthers are playing and the game goes to overtime.
Saints get the ball first. Drew Brees throws an interception. As the intercepting player is running with the ball, he fumbles the ball. The fumble is then recovered by the saints.
Can the saints then win with a FG via sudden death?
(4) If the second team loses possession by an interception or fumble, but the first team committed a foul prior to the change of possession, the second team’s possession has not legally ended, and the game cannot end on the down. However, in certain situations (see Approved Ruling 16.24) the second team cannot decline the
penalty and accept the result of the play, no matter how beneficial, because it would create a second
possession for itself. It must accept the penalty enforcement, which will extend its initial possession.
(5) The situation in (4) may also affect the team that receives the opening kickoff during its first possession. If there is a foul by the second team followed by a double change of possession, and the first team declines the penalty and accepts the result of the play, the second team has had its required possession, and the first team has possession of the ball for the second time and needs only a field goal to win. However, if it accepts the penalty, it will extend its initial possession (see Approved Ruling 16.25).
TL;DR: Yes to both.
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Posted on 10/17/16 at 12:08 am to saintsfan92612
Dude you are the man. 
I haven't been able to get an answer on that from multiple people. Always wondered that since the changed the rules.
I haven't been able to get an answer on that from multiple people. Always wondered that since the changed the rules.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 8:10 am to saintsfan92612
I am not so sure about question 2. What you highlighted talks about there being a penalty involved. Question 2 doesn't involve a penalty.
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