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re: Don't want Herman or Jimbo now?... let's break it down for you fools
Posted on 10/10/16 at 11:54 am to DrEdgeLSU
Posted on 10/10/16 at 11:54 am to DrEdgeLSU
quote:No, you don't.
To be included amongst coaches who you expect to win a NC with every few years, you need to at least win one.
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It's not that high of a bar if you think about it.
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quote:Both top tier coaches, no doubt, but you simply have to put Harbaugh up there with them. Harbaugh has arguably been more successful than either (even without the championships), given the state of the programs that he started with.
There are two coaches who have shown they can do this - Saban and Meyer.
Posted on 10/10/16 at 2:17 pm to Korkstand
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No, you don't.
Ok. I think the man is a fine coach. Making Stanford relevant and making Michigan instantly better are both significant accomplishments. That said, Harbaugh is in his 9th year as the Head Coach of a college football program (his first three were spent in FCS at San Diego).
He has exactly ZERO Division I conference championships to his credit. The highlight of his college coaching career is an Orange Bowl victory over Virginia Tech.
Was he an outstanding coach in the NFL? Absolutely. Is he an outstanding coach in college? Absolutely. But something has to separate the obvious two best coaches in the game from the rest of the pack. I think that line should be a National Title. HELL, I'd even settle for a Conference Title at this point before we anoint him as on the same level as Urban Meyer (3 titles at 2 schools over 15 years, 3 conference champs, 27 total losses in 15 years) and Nick Saban (5 National titles at 2 schools, 6 conference titles and 197 victories in 20 years). Those guys are clearly Tier I.
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It's not that high of a bar?! Only one guy in the entire world can do it each year. It's basically the highest bar you can possibly set.
It's so high of a bar that 15 different coaches have won one of these things since 1995. In 20 years, 15 coaches have won a NC. The club isn't nearly as elite as it sounds, so no, I don't consider winning ONE title to be too many to ask for when you say that a coach is expected to win a NC every few years.
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