re: What exactly makes Herman soooo special?

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I'll cut Jimbo some slack on that one since his starting QB for most of the season didn't even make the trip and his backup could barely move with a taped up sprained foot after he was carted off and returned to play.

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F that, don't cut him any slack. The guy played a lot or started in the last 5 games leading up to the bowl game. He may have gotten injured, but 4 ints?

Houston's talent level didn't even come close to FSU's. From a recruiting standpoint from 2012-2015, Vanderbilt ranked higher than Houston by a good bit.

Not saying you, but people want to get on Herman for losing by 3 points to a 6 win UCONN team, on the road, without his star QB, in his first year, but Jimbo loses to a 3-9 GT team by 6 points, on the road, with his starting QB, in his 6th year as FSU's HC (9th year on FSU's staff), and people barely if ever bring it up?

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Herman is no joke though. He is a great coach.

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This is what we can agree on.

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I want to ask the people throwing shade at Herman just to prop up Jimbo. Looking at Jimbo's first two years at FSU as HC (plus his previous 3 years as OC), would you (not you, just the ones throwing shade at Herman) have taken him over Tom Herman's 3 years as OSU's OC and 2 years as Houston's HC?

For reference, from 07-10, FSU had the 6th, 3rd, 2nd, and 1st ranked recruiting classes in the ACC. From 12-15 Houston had the 3rd, 2nd, 5th, and 7th ranked recruits in its conferences. That means that their talent "within their conference" is comparable somewhat.

Also for reference, Houston lost to a 4 win UTSA team and 3 win Tulane team at home (including 3 more losses), before Herman got there, so their rebuilding of each team is also comparable.


Jimbo is the safe pick, but being safe doesn't win you championships. Of course there is a chance of backfire, but I believe LSU has the program, and Herman is the type of coach that could turn this into a dynasty.