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Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:29 pm to BluegrassBelle
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When did it become unreasonable to question whether a foreign country can detain US citizens and revoke their passports when charges haven't even been filed? Or any non-Brazilian for that matter.
Just because you're a foreigner doesn't exempt you from obeying local laws. U.S. citizen or otherwise. Charges don't have to be filed to restrict someone from leaving. I don't know why you continue to be so hung up in this point and your whole "handle it through the embassy" schtick.
If Brazil "handled it through the embassy," all the swimmers would have gone home and there wouldn't have been a damn thing Brazil could have done about it once they were gone.
Now sure, this is all much ado about nothing, but that doesn't change the fact that a country has the right to enforce their laws.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:31 pm to Wayne Campbell
It is shocking that the majority of the video is edited.
I believe the Americans more than the Brazilians.
I believe the Americans more than the Brazilians.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:37 pm to ctiger69
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I believe the Americans more than the Brazilians.
I believe that based on the inability to effectively communicate, that the very first impression they probably had was that they were being robbed.
I also believe that it is more likely than not that they damaged property at that gas station and the owner demanded they pay or he'd call the cops.
It is also more likely than not that Lochte has intentionally omitted that portion of the story.
This post was edited on 8/18/16 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:34 pm to ctiger69
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believe the Americans more than the Brazilians.
Which Americans?
The one who said the tool lied?
Posted on 8/19/16 at 12:32 am to TexasTiger89
I didn't understand one thing those dudes we're saying
Posted on 8/19/16 at 2:44 am to TexasTiger89
Lochte probably should've been thrown into a third world prison for that horrible show after the 2012 Olympics.
We should ship him back to Rio to give him the chance.
We should ship him back to Rio to give him the chance.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 7:52 am to Wayne Campbell
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I also believe that it is more likely than not that they damaged property at that gas station and the owner demanded they pay or he'd call the cops.
Let's say they did damage the door even though I think they probably didn't. Ok, they damaged the door. Now, is it common practice, in Brazil, to hold a gun to your head and rob you afterwards due to the possibility that you might have caused damaged to a door? Is it your right to rob anybody in this situation in Brazil?
This post was edited on 8/19/16 at 9:49 am
Posted on 8/19/16 at 8:49 am to ctiger69
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Now, is it common practice, in Brazil, to hold a gun to your head and rob you afterwards due to the possibility that you might have a damaged a door
So you think security guards drew weapons on guys who were complete innocent of any wrongdoing at what appears to be a fairly busy gas station? Even for Brasil that's a bold move.
This post was edited on 8/19/16 at 8:51 am
Posted on 8/19/16 at 8:58 am to Wayne Campbell
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So you think security guards drew weapons on guys who were complete innocent of any wrongdoing at what appears to be a fairly busy gas station? Even for Brasil that's a bold move.
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Two sources told CNN the exchange of money at the gas station was not a negotiation. The guards made a money gesture with their hands and regardless of how it started, the swimmers had a gun pointed at them and they were not allowed to leave until they had given the money, the sources said.
LINK
Posted on 8/19/16 at 9:10 am to BluegrassBelle
quote:I think the correct term is called "investigation"
Why haven't they been charged yet for filing a false report if it's such an egregious violation of Brazilian law?
Posted on 8/19/16 at 9:11 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
That's not a contradiction of my statement. I don't believe the swimmers were completely innocent of wrongdoing.
Whether the response was appropriate or not is a different issue.
I don't believe that the security guards pulled out guns and demanded money from the swimmers for no reason or in a typical robbery, at a busy gas station at 6 AM.
Whether the response was appropriate or not is a different issue.
I don't believe that the security guards pulled out guns and demanded money from the swimmers for no reason or in a typical robbery, at a busy gas station at 6 AM.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 9:11 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 8/19/16 at 9:13 am to BluegrassBelle
quote:What's the extent of your research on Rio's laws? You seem very well versed.
But until they are charged, and until it's more than a misdemeanor-esque charge, then Rio has no business pulling them off planes and revoking their passports. Sorry, but that's the truth of it
Posted on 8/19/16 at 9:37 am to Wayne Campbell
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I don't believe that the security guards pulled out guns and demanded money from the swimmers for no reason or in a typical robbery, at a busy gas station at 6 AM.
I agree with you there, misunderstood what you were saying
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