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re: Just finished watching No Country for Old Men

Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:52 pm to
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:52 pm to
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Tommy Lee Jones' last scene as the Sheriff explains it all.

He basically says there will always be incomprehensible criminals like Anton Chigurh's and peacekeepers like him and his father. TLJ grew up in an era when there was just "right vs wrong".


Pretty much all of this. Story is about Bell and what he perceives to be a changing world. The story his Uncle Ellis tells him is to show that evil has always been present. In reality, the world never really changes, we just lose the will to fight it as we grow old.

Chigurh isn't Satan and isn't some unstoppable force. Hell, Llewyn damn near kills him at one point. Like Carter, he has his set of rules that he believes in his mind to be superior to everyone else's. The car crash at the end is perfect. He is cruising through a set of green lights and gets T-boned by someone not following the same set of rules. Chigurh living is better justice for him than if he would have died. This way, he gets to realize that he is just another spec of dust like the rest of us.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 8/18/16 at 9:22 pm to
Is it possible someone can get the point of this movie, and still not like it?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/19/16 at 10:30 am to
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Chigurh isn't Satan and isn't some unstoppable force. Hell, Llewyn damn near kills him at one point. Like Carter, he has his set of rules that he believes in his mind to be superior to everyone else's. The car crash at the end is perfect. He is cruising through a set of green lights and gets T-boned by someone not following the same set of rules. Chigurh living is better justice for him than if he would have died. This way, he gets to realize that he is just another spec of dust like the rest of us.


bingo
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:45 am to
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Chigurh isn't Satan and isn't some unstoppable force. Hell, Llewyn damn near kills him at one point. Like Carter, he has his set of rules that he believes in his mind to be superior to everyone else's. The car crash at the end is perfect. He is cruising through a set of green lights and gets T-boned by someone not following the same set of rules. Chigurh living is better justice for him than if he would have died. This way, he gets to realize that he is just another spec of dust like the rest of us.


Exactly. Chigurh is sort of an Ayn Rand archetype. He is actually a psychopathic sadist, but he has convinced himself that he is superior to everyone else, and beyond morality even, because he is smarter than everyone (so he thinks) and because he has adopted his own code. He and his code transcend petty humanity (in his mind) until the random action of some mere mortal shows him that he's a... just mere mortal, and less than that, a psychopath without justification.

Bell is also giving up illusions of control. He's no psychopath, so it's less dramatic, but we see him edging into retirement and reluctantly letting go - realizing that it's not the world getting worse, it's just him getting weaker and more fearful and hesitant with age as the world passes him by, and even more - that he never really had that much power over things anyway.
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