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What killed mainstream R&B?
Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:32 pm
I'm talking about the 90's where you had acts like Aaliyah, Blackstreet, R. Kelly, Next, Boyz II Men, etc...
It's the one genre, maybe aside from rock, that has completely disappeared from mainstream pop radio stations.
It's the one genre, maybe aside from rock, that has completely disappeared from mainstream pop radio stations.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:34 pm to Paul Allen
Man the 90's had some great R&B
Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:53 pm to Paul Allen
You gots to go hard mayne cant be have'n those bitches an hoes makin you soft keep that shite at a hundred yo.
In other words, gangster/misogynist rap. IMO.
In other words, gangster/misogynist rap. IMO.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 2:21 pm to Paul Allen
Culture shifted to music that is much less respectful towards women
Posted on 7/28/16 at 2:56 pm to Paul Allen
I'm sure that R. Kelly pissing on underaged girls played somewhat of a role.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 5:21 pm to saint amant steve
What happened to rap/hip hop?
It has finally been a genre long enough to get old man complaints. "What's this Tyga crap? He ain't NWA."
Rap has turned like metal. Where metal has Cookie Monster vocals, rap has mumbled lyrics that are poorly written.
R&B still has some vocalists. Usher can sing, John legend can sing.
It has finally been a genre long enough to get old man complaints. "What's this Tyga crap? He ain't NWA."
Rap has turned like metal. Where metal has Cookie Monster vocals, rap has mumbled lyrics that are poorly written.
R&B still has some vocalists. Usher can sing, John legend can sing.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 5:22 pm to Paul Allen
Earth, Wind and Fire was the last great R&B act.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 5:47 pm to DyeHardDylan
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Earth, Wind and Fire was the last great R&B act.
this, this - all of this ^
Posted on 7/28/16 at 7:54 pm to Paul Allen
It's still out there, but there's more influence from pop and hip hop.
Posted on 7/28/16 at 7:56 pm to LSU alum wannabe
So can Jason Derulo and Drake.
Is Pit Bull R&B?
Is Pit Bull R&B?
Posted on 7/28/16 at 8:26 pm to Paul Allen
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Aaliyah, Blackstreet, R. Kelly, Next, Boyz II Men, etc...
Thats not R and B
Posted on 7/28/16 at 9:10 pm to Paul Allen
Hip Hop. Lots of classic R&B stations changed formats
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:37 pm to DyeHardDylan
I miss good ole soul music
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I miss good ole soul music
I found this album on youtube Noora Noor - Soul deep She's the Queen of Norwegian soul. Has a early 70s soul feel to it.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 12:15 am to Paul Allen
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I'm talking about the 90's where you had acts like Aaliyah, Blackstreet, R. Kelly, Next, Boyz II Men, etc...
It's the one genre, maybe aside from rock, that has completely disappeared from mainstream pop radio stations.
Maybe another reason is the rise of edm? It seems as people tastes in beats/production style has taken a complete 180 from the 90s, and nothing sounds like the r&b from 20 years ago.
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Hip Hop. Lots of classic R&B stations changed formats
Ehhh, dont think so. Rap and hip hop was probably bigger in the 90s than it is now. R&B probably benefitted from the popularity of rap, as there were plenty of crossover songs.
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 12:20 am
Posted on 7/29/16 at 6:19 am to 632627
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Ehhh, dont think so. Rap and hip hop was probably bigger in the 90s than it is now. R&B probably benefitted from the popularity of rap, as there were plenty of crossover songs.
Did you listen to the crossover material? Also, I know many blacks who couldn't and still can't stand rap, even in the crossover stuff. I agree with your statement, I was simply pointing out that over the course of time, hundreds of traditional R&B stations changed their formats to a strictly hip hop format, limiting the amount of exposure for pure R&B.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:04 am to geauxbrown
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hundreds of traditional R&B stations changed their formats to a strictly hip hop format, limiting the amount of exposure for pure R&B.
I think its a chicken or the egg situation.... To me, the change in format was due to the r&b genre dying and the lack of content.
Regarding the crossover songs, absolutely. The songs in which a rapper dropped a verse on an r&b track, or an r&b singer laid a chorus or whole song over a hip hop beat were arguably more popular than straight r&b tracks as those songs would appeal to fans of both genres.
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:21 pm to 632627
R&B guys thinking they were rappers or just trying to keep up with the trend in the early 2000`s.
Also, women were starting to make themselves more powerful in everyday life and making it a point they didn`t need a man to make it in the world.
So the guys tried to play hard and get gritty which turned an R&B album into a Rap album.
Examples: Jagged Edge,112,Dru Hill.. There are many many more and I`m sure some very good ones, I`m leaving out.
Also, women were starting to make themselves more powerful in everyday life and making it a point they didn`t need a man to make it in the world.
So the guys tried to play hard and get gritty which turned an R&B album into a Rap album.
Examples: Jagged Edge,112,Dru Hill.. There are many many more and I`m sure some very good ones, I`m leaving out.
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:29 pm to 632627
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nothing sounds like the r&b from 20 years ago
That's a 1980's quote.
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