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re: Thoughts about systemic racism

Posted on 7/21/16 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 1:18 pm to
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Are you saying that genetically, they have lower brain function? Cause if its a nurture thing, and not a nature thing then putting pressure on them is a way to raise that number. If its a nature thing, then you've basically proven that something can be racist and be true. And we have to decide as a society whether its more important to go with facts or to not be racist, in those instances.



I am not saying it, science is. Its a scientific fact that certain races have different average IQs and it is also a fact that IQ can only be increased through nurture by a very, very small amount. Since IQ is caused by nature I wouldn't call it racist, it is just a fact and we need to be honest about it.

If you look at the success Asian people have in this country compared to other minority groups it is due to the fact that they have extremely high average IQs, much higher than white people. Yes they also have great family units and work hard but a lot of that has to do with them being smart enough to know they will be rewarded for doing this. Jews have the highest IQs of anyone and it is obvious when you look at how successful they are compared to most.

Intelligence isn't what makes people good or bad, and there are obviously outliers in every group, so it is a complicated problem. I don't have a solution I know would solve everything but the current system of hiding the facts isn't helping anyone and I have a few ideas that could help, I do know unless we are honest we will never solve ANYTHING.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22549 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 1:24 pm to
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I wouldn't call it racist,


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rac·ism
'ra?siz?m
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.


The fact isnt racist. The belief in the fact is, by definition, racist. The problem we have is it is universally accepted that being racist is bad. So we have, according to what you are saying is scientific evidence, made it wrong to hold a belief that correlates with science. That would be a problem, if true.
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5354 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 1:30 pm to
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I am not saying it, science is. Its a scientific fact that certain races have different average IQs


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there are different meanings of "IQ" and different ways it can be measured and interpreted

and what does "race" mean? Did you see a study that indexed IQ to the amount of melanin in peoples skin?
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