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Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:31 am to rungunz
Those are both great rifles, but they ain't nowhere close to the Nemo.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:34 am to jdavid1
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Those are both great rifles, but they ain't nowhere close to the Nemo.
Are you being serious?
Please substantiate your claims.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:44 am to rungunz
LaRue OBR or PredatOBR if we are going to start talking about expensive rifles.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:58 am to rungunz
Nemo has a carbon fiber barrel, nickel boron bcg with recoil reduction system, free float mlok instead of the quadrail, Geissele 2 stage trigger, lightweight machined receivers, an actual muzzle brake instead of the A2 birdcage, cerakote finish, and adjustable gas block just to name a few things. In my opinion the fit and finish on Nemo's guns is hard to beat. I haven't seen the executive order in person yet, but it looks to be a work of art.
The LMT is a great gun. I would be lucky to own one, but's like comparing a F-150 XLT to a King Ranch. They both do the same thing, but one is a lot nicer with nicer features than the other.
I mean bruh
or
The LMT is a great gun. I would be lucky to own one, but's like comparing a F-150 XLT to a King Ranch. They both do the same thing, but one is a lot nicer with nicer features than the other.
I mean bruh
or
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:01 pm to rungunz
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Why would you buy that over an LMT MWS or KAC SR25?
both are pretty overpriced, much like the Nemo.
SR25 is living on name at this point. the civilian pricing is an utter joke. they used to be the only good AR10 out and charge a hefty premium due to their contracts. id like to have one, but id never pay that much for one.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:03 pm to jdavid1
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Nemo has a carbon fiber barrel, nickel boron bcg with recoil reduction system, free float keymod instead of the quadrail, Geissele 2 stage trigger, lightweight machined receivers, an actual muzzle brake instead of the A2 birdcage, cerakote finish, and adjustable gas block just to name a few things. In my opinion the fit and finish on Nemo's guns is hard to beat. I haven't seen the executive order in person yet, but it looks to be a work of art.
The LMT is a great gun. I would be lucky to own one, but's like comparing a F-150 XLT to a King Ranch. They both do the same thing, but one is a lot nicer with nicer features than the other.
Clearly gimmicks and aesthetics are more important to you.
Nemo does not even come close to the pedigree, R&D, and history of military contracts of KAC and LMT.
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:03 pm to jdavid1
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jdavid1
I think they're using Proof barrels too
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:06 pm to Carson123987
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both are pretty overpriced, much like the Nemo.
SR25 is living on name at this point. the civilian pricing is an utter joke. they used to be the only good AR10 out and charge a hefty premium due to their contracts. id like to have one, but id never pay that much for one.
You're joking right?
The cost of R&D to develop and refine the SR-25 is passed on to the end user.
The latest iteration of the SR-25 (APC, ACC, etc,) is lightyears ahead of its "competitors".
As I always say, "It's your money; do as you please".
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:18 pm to rungunz
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The cost of R&D to develop and refine the SR-25 is passed on to the end user.
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The latest iteration of the SR-25 (APC, ACC, etc,) is lightyears ahead of its "competitors".
As I always say, "It's your money; do as you please".
no it's not. I could put together a rifle that shoots with similar accuracy for half the price. you're quoting pedigree (AKA name recognition), R&D (to justify the high price), and military contracts (just lol). those military contracts are why it's so fricking expensive. the price of an SR25 shouldn't exceed $2800-$3000 for what you get.
Why would you drop $5000 on an APC when you could spend $3000 on a rifle that's put together by GA Precision?
What components of the KAC are so much better than those of other quality AR-10s out right now? Don't just say "R&D"
Hell, I would take the MWS 100x over the SR25 at their respective prices
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:28 pm to rungunz
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Clearly gimmicks and aesthetics are more important to you.
Name one thing I listed that is a gimmick or aesthetic.
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Nemo does not even come close to the pedigree, R&D, and history of military contracts of KAC and LMT.
I agree with you on this versus a Nemo, but using that logic why would anybody buy an AR other than a Colt?
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:30 pm to Carson123987
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no it's not. I could put together a rifle that shoots with similar accuracy for half the price. you're quoting pedigree (AKA name recognition), R&D (to justify the high price), and military contracts (just lol). those military contracts are why it's so fricking expensive. the price of an SR25 shouldn't exceed $2800-$3000 for what you get.
Why would you drop $5000 on an APC when you could spend $3000 on a rifle that's put together by GA Precision?
What components of the KAC are so much better than those of other quality AR-10s out right now? Don't just say "R&D"
To quote someone more knowledgable than me: "No dude is going to get shot in the chest at 300 yards and look down and say 'What is that, a 3 MOA group?'"
Sure, if you just want to sit on a bench and shoot for groups, most anything with a "match grade" barrel will be fine.
However, this isn't just about accuracy. If I'm buying a semi-automatic rifle, I want something that I can beat to shite. I want a work horse, not a show pony.
I'm not sure if you're aware of the enhance functionality and durability of the KAC E3 bolt.
The vast majority of military contracts are awarded for a reason, and those reasons are never "Gee, the milling on that lower receiver matches my purse!".
I feel like some of you on this board have never heard of Google. I'm at work and I'm not going to link or write about the R&D of KAC at this time.
If you think Brand X is as good as/better/looks cooler than something that is proven, then by all means go for it.
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:32 pm to jdavid1
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Name one thing I listed that is a gimmick or aesthetic.
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Nemo has a carbon fiber barrel, nickel boron bcg with recoil reduction system, free float keymod instead of the quadrail, Geissele 2 stage trigger, lightweight machined receivers, an actual muzzle brake instead of the A2 birdcage, cerakote finish, and adjustable gas block just to name a few things. In my opinion the fit and finish on Nemo's guns is hard to beat. I haven't seen the executive order in person yet, but it looks to be a work of art.
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Nemo does not even come close to the pedigree, R&D, and history of military contracts of KAC and LMT.
I agree with you on this versus a Nemo, but using that logic why would anybody buy an AR other than a Colt?
Because Colt does not offer a midlength gas system, and does not readily offer configurations other than plastic handguards + FSB.
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:37 pm to rungunz
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The vast majority of military contracts are awarded for a reason
Yeah. It's usually political bs and connections. I have family in the large arms contracting business and contracts are all political crap. Just because KAC has a contract does mean it's the best out there.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:37 pm to DeoreDX
To supplement OP, both the AR10A and DEF10 series use standard SR25 type mags, usually $18-20 per for 20 round Pmags
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:39 pm to rungunz
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carbon fiber barre
Weight reduction.
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recoil reduction system
Self explanatory
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lightweight machined receivers
Again, weight reduction
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cerakote finish
I can somewhat agree on this
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fit and finish
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looks to be a work of art.
Both of these followed "In my opinion".
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:40 pm to ChatRabbit77
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The vast majority of military contracts are awarded for a reason
Yeah. It's usually political bs and connections. I have family in the large arms contracting business and contracts are all political crap. Just because KAC has a contract does mean it's the best out there.
I agree that's why I said the majority.
Let's be honest with ourselves: Windham and Radical firearms wouldn't win any contracts.
I'm not basing KAC's superiority merely on contracts alone, but it is certainly something to consider in the big picture.
Who wins contracts? Colt, LMT, HK, KAC, FN, Glock...
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:46 pm to rungunz
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However, this isn't just about accuracy. If I'm buying a semi-automatic rifle, I want something that I can beat to shite. I want a work horse, not a show pony.
You don't think a Daniel Defense or a Larue will run right there with a KAC?
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I'm not sure if you're aware of the enhance functionality and durability of the KAC E3 bolt.
I'm well aware of what it's touted to be.
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I feel like some of you on this board have never heard of Google
trust us, we know you have
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If you think Brand X is as good as/better/looks cooler than something that is proven, then by all means go for it.
there's your strawman again. im still waiting on you to offer up your list of superior components in the SR25 (just the bolt won't cut it) that justify its absurd pricing.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:52 pm to Carson123987
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superior components in the SR25
It's definitely the URX rail forged from a log of God's feces that holds the absolute tightest tolerances of anything in the world. Or maybe its those nifty rail panels that make sure you can have a grip that cuts groups by .5 moa.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:53 pm to Carson123987
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However, this isn't just about accuracy. If I'm buying a semi-automatic rifle, I want something that I can beat to shite. I want a work horse, not a show pony.
You don't think a Daniel Defense or a Larue will run right there with a KAC?
Never said they wouldn't. I'm really referring to Nemo, which costs as much or more than a KAC. I'm not saying Nemo isn't durable, but I won't be taking my chances.
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I feel like some of you on this board have never heard of Google
trust us, we know you have
I guess you've learned everything you know about firearms from your deployments as an operator.
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If you think Brand X is as good as/better/looks cooler than something that is proven, then by all means go for it.
there's your strawman again. im still waiting on you to offer up your list of superior components in the SR25 (just the bolt won't cut it) that justify its absurd pricing.
If you don't think the E3 bolt is a significant improvement contributing to the increased price of admission, then you don't have to buy it.
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 1:15 pm
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