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re: Your daily dose of white guilt from ESPN - "travel ball excludes poor blacks"
Posted on 7/3/16 at 8:49 pm to The Pirate King
Posted on 7/3/16 at 8:49 pm to The Pirate King
There is nothing that excludes black grandparents from creating and forming baseball or softball teams.
If they do not have the ambition and motivation to do so then that is on them and nobody else.
What does it teach kids if the adults expect white people to create teams for black kids. That's a double edged sword for the team sponsor... you're either trying to manipulate the kids for your benefit or your racist for not manipulating the kids for your benefit.
If they do not have the ambition and motivation to do so then that is on them and nobody else.
What does it teach kids if the adults expect white people to create teams for black kids. That's a double edged sword for the team sponsor... you're either trying to manipulate the kids for your benefit or your racist for not manipulating the kids for your benefit.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 8:50 pm to NIH
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Police, banks, schools, credit, travel ball, white Hispanics
It's amazing black folk can walk down the street unaccosted with all the enemies they have.
you left out other blacks
Posted on 7/3/16 at 8:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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“It’s not even intentional, but it’s institutionalized racism. It’s crazy to ask a college coach to recruit a black kid with new requirements for APR. You lose scholarships if kids don’t perform in the classroom.
what
the
frick
it's actually pretty racist for Stewart to imply that their black players can't be successful both on the field and in the classroom.
That's one of the sadder things I find in these articles is that the black leaders straight up say that their kids can't cut it and won't be able to make it if standards aren't lowered or designed to benefit one group of people solely.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 8:59 pm to chalmetteowl
We got all of our equipment from sponsors, reebok and Rawlings kept us in matching new gear
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:20 pm to Caplewood
quote:Those items are the smallest cost of being on a travel team. Someone had to get you to practice, ballgames, travel cost, hotel rooms, lost time at work for large/long tournaments, etc., etc. We did travel/select soccer back in the day. I wore my team sweatshirt years after we quit traveling and a parent saw me in the sweatshirt and asked, "you still have that thing"? Well, hell yes. This is my $10,000 sweatshirt!
We got all of our equipment from sponsors, reebok and Rawlings kept us in matching new gear
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:23 pm to Diamondawg
It was like 4 grand a summer for an out of town tournament every weekend, multiple showcases, and atleast three in town games during the week. It really wasn't that big of a deal, and I could drive for the last three years of playing
This post was edited on 7/3/16 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:25 pm to Caplewood
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It was like 4 grand a summer for an out of town tournament every weekend, multiple showcases, and atleast three in town games during the week. It really wasn't that big of a deal, and I could drive for the last three years of playing
Im sure you were adding up your parents receipts.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:26 pm to Adam Banks
The total was on the big arse binder we would get before every season
Probably another grand or two for food and what not. But not that big of a deal
Probably another grand or two for food and what not. But not that big of a deal
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:34 pm to The Pirate King
Travel ball is trash anyways
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:36 pm to Caplewood
quote:Well, I guess you miss totally the point of this whole thread because poor families (white, black, purple, brown, red, you name it) 4 grand is a huge deal. We did it as something of an investment thinking he had college scholarship level talent. We were fortunate in that we could do it. Kids probably more talented than my kid could not pull it off.
It was like 4 grand a summer for an out of town tournament every weekend, multiple showcases, and atleast three in town games during the week. It really wasn't that big of a deal, and I could drive for the last three years of playing
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:38 pm to Diamondawg
You missed my earlier point too that the complex I played out of(as well as other programs around Atlanta) would play against these poorer teams and recruit the top players off them and essentially give them scholarships to come play with us
If you have the talent you will get opportunities, no matter your socioeconomic status
If you have the talent you will get opportunities, no matter your socioeconomic status
This post was edited on 7/3/16 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:52 pm to Caplewood
quote:We made sacrifices to do what we did. If someone brought in a kid with a full ride and no expenses, I would have been pissed.
You missed my earlier point too that the complex I played out of(as well as other programs around Atlanta) would play against these poorer teams and recruit the top players off them and essentially give them scholarships to come play with us
If you have the talent you will get opportunities, no matter your socioeconomic status
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:54 pm to Caplewood
quote:
You missed my earlier point too that the complex I played out of(as well as other programs around Atlanta) would play against these poorer teams and recruit the top players off them and essentially give them scholarships to come play with us If you have the talent you will get opportunities, no matter your socioeconomic status
I sure as hell ain't paying for someone else's kid to play travel ball. Travel ball parents are crazy
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:56 pm to Diamondawg
Well then wtf do you want? That was a way of helping the most talented yet least well off players, seems like a good thing to me
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:58 pm to Adam Banks
You sure as hell ain't paying for your kid to play travel ball(because he isn't good enough) let alone anyone else so it's irrelevant
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:02 pm to Caplewood
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You sure as hell ain't paying for your kid to play travel ball(because he isn't good enough) let alone anyone else so it's irrelevant
You know nothing caplewood
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:05 pm to Adam Banks
Look, it's ok your kid plays rec ball.. Nothing to be more than mildly ashamed of
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:07 pm to Caplewood
White kid here and mom was a teacher, dad a cop. Invited to play travel ball and mom saw how much it would cost and she said GFY.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:26 pm to barry
My brother is an executive for an oil Corp and he won't even put his son in travel ball.
There's a saying about a fool and parting with his money.
5-10k for a summer of baseball for a kid is ludicrous
There's a saying about a fool and parting with his money.
5-10k for a summer of baseball for a kid is ludicrous
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:39 pm to The Pirate King
quote:Your brother is a smart man. Travel ball is dumb.
My brother is an executive for an oil Corp and he won't even put his son in travel ball.
There's a saying about a fool and parting with his money.
5-10k for a summer of baseball for a kid is ludicrous
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