re: Finally watched Star Wars......My lord

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Which is not what I want in a villain. That's my preference. I'm fine with flaws, I'm fine with hints of morality, that's actually a common trait in many villains.

As another poster said, maybe he's not supposed to be the main villain, but if he is they just undermined the frick out of him in this movie.

Maybe he turns out to be a badass in the future, I don't know, I just did not find his character intriguing as a villain.

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Fair enough.

Personally, I really don't want his character to have a redemption arc. He should go out as a villain as he tries and tries to be evil throughout the new trilogy. Perhaps he realizes the error of his ways, but also realizes there is no coming back, so he chooses to stay the course. I think it would be hard for fans to swallow his redemption after killing the beloved Han Solo. Plus, that would be something "new."

You've got the prequels where Anakin is "slowly" seduced to evil. The originals where Luke avoids temptation and Vader is redeemed by/for family. This story could be different by having Kylo consciously choosing to do "wrong" because that's what he wants to do for whatever reason, and avoiding the temptation of the light and his family.