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re: What other schools could get away with what UNC evidently has?

Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:08 pm to
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In the end, they may vacate some wins, maybe lose some schollies, and/or get a one year post season ban, but this year will be considered clean and they'll get to keep the NC if they win it. That may not have happened if they didn't drag it out like they've done.


You realize its not the basketball program thats the main part of the infraction?

The football program was the investigation.

They only re-opened that investigation because Rashad McCants came out talking, and he said some inconsistent things that clearly show he's just looking for $$$.

McCants was a Matt Doherty recruit.

Case and point:

"The question is what are we talking about, honestly. I mean I have a check being written to me from the University of North Carolina for over $10 million due to the exploitation of me as a player and the lack of education that I received. The NCAA has a check for me for over $300 million to help me facilitate these sports education programs across the country. These are things that’s in the works."
—?Rashad McCants, speaking on Mark Packers' Sirius XM radio show in 2014[52]


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In contrast, in a noted 2004 interview with television station WRAL, McCants compared attending UNC with being in jai[/quote]


Rashad McCants is pissed he isn't in the NBA and blew his money, and now he wants to find his own ways of making money.

McCants changes words


[quote]CHAPEL HILL, N.C.-- North Carolina guard Rashad McCants is
required to go to class, to show up on time for practice and to attend study hall. He has very little of the freedom most college students take for granted.

And he wouldn't have it any other way.




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"I love North Carolina," McCants said Tuesday. "I wouldn't be
here if I didn't."


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McCants and Tar Heels coach Roy Williams held a news conference
to explain comments McCants made to a local TV station last week.

In an interview that aired on WRAL-TV on Friday night, McCants
compared playing college basketball to being in jail. He also said
he considered his time in the program to be his job.

"It's to get up and go to school, get here and lift weights and
play basketball," McCants said in the interview. "That's my
9-to-5. As my uncle said, I'm in jail right now. You're not allowed
to do certain things, you're not allowed to say certain things.

"But once you get out of jail, you're free. So I'm just in my
sentence and I'm doing my time."

He said Tuesday he meant to give an example of how regimented
his life is with the Tar Heels. As he told Williams when explaining
the comments, he couldn't go anywhere during fall break like many
of his classmates because he had to get ready for the start of
practice.

"I do feel like there is a lot of things that are required for
us to do," McCants said. "But this is what I love to do, and I
want to make it my job someday."

The enigmatic McCants, who says he's misunderstood by people
outside the team, led North Carolina in scoring last season with an
average of 20 points. He started 29 of 30 games and was named to
the all-Atlantic Coast Conference team and was a third-team
All-America.

In a game against North Carolina-Wilmington last season,
Williams sent McCants and teammate Jesse Holley to the locker room
in the first half because he said they weren't cheering enough for
their teammates on the court.

Williams downplayed the incident after the game, and he had no
further problems with McCants.





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This season, McCants returned with two new tattoos -- "Born to
be hated" on his right arm and "Dying to be loved" on his left.
He talked about public perception of him earlier in the TV interview.





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"I was really ticked off," he said. "I told Rashad there was
a big difference in playing college basketball and being in jail.
Like the game Monopoly, I told him I could just give him a 'Get out
of jail free' card and he could leave."

Williams changed his mind after viewing the complete interview,
which lasted about 10 minutes. McCants was introspective about his
time at North Carolina and he talked about his excitement about the
upcoming season.

"I thought the interview was very thoughtful," Williams said.
"I guess the bottom line is I disagree with his use of the word
jail."


LINK

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The challenge never abated, as we saw from the incident in the Final Four. A couple weeks later, when a press conference was held on the Smith Center court to announce several members of that championship team were departing for the NBA draft, Sean May, Raymond Felton and freshman Marvin Williams were joined at the table by Roy Williams. But four Tar Heels underclassmen left that year. McCants' announcement was separate from the others.


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We are fairly certain McCants was dishonest with himself in the past; go back and read Chris Palmer's ESPN The Magazine article from 2010, which considers the absence of McCants from the NBA just five years after he was a first-round pick.

Although he'd been abandoned by two teams at that point and had a summer-league shot at a third spoiled by a family obligation, and though multiple league employees were quoted on the record as questioning his attitude, McCants found no fault with his own comportment during his time as an active NBA player.





Rashad McCants is obviously an unreliable guy.



This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 10:14 pm
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36155 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 1:51 am to
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In the end, they may vacate some wins, maybe lose some schollies, and/or get a one year post season ban, but this year will be considered clean and they'll get to keep the NC if they win it. That may not have happened if they didn't drag it out like they've done.


You realize its not the basketball program thats the main part of the infraction?

The football program was the investigation.



While it is true the basketball program did not start out the focus of any investigation isn't it pretty clear they were funneling many of their important basketball players through the fake african american studies program? A program they custom made for that purpose? I've never heard of a more cynical case of academic fraud for NCAA athletes - especially in light of North Carolina being a generally well respected, while not elite, academic institution.
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18544 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 8:36 am to
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You realize its not the basketball program thats the main part of the infraction?

I never said they were and I never said Roy Williams was at fault. All I said is that UNC basketball may receive those penalties, but because they delayed their response until after basketball season it won't affect them this year when they have one of their best teams in years.

It's a smart move and I was just pointing it out.
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