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re: Apple already unlocked 70 other iPhones for feds
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:41 am to MrSmith
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:41 am to MrSmith
quote:i don't understand how we're only up to 3 pages and 10 downvotes so far. i'm slipping.
I thought you understood how encryption works?
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 9:42 am
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:42 am to MrSmith
Now the US Government will declare Apple a 'monopoly' and break it up. Or Federalize it. Can't have all THAT privacy, this is the USA of course.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:44 am to gmrkr5
quote:
the "ability" doesn't exist
Got ya. I fricked that up. Carry on. I guarantee you if it was some hot chick nudes on that phone some hacker would figure a way to get into that phone.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:44 am to CAD703X
The real problem is that the majority of the US population is ignorant about what is going on- shocker I know.
Most think Apple just won't crack the phone and unlock this one device for business reasons. Also that because the terrorist are the bad guys, Apple holding up the investigation is a bad thing, and that they should do the patriotic thing and help out the FBI.
When you try to explain that all iphones will be affected by this, they shake their heads in misunderstanding, and think you support the terrorists.
I pity the future generations of this country.
Most think Apple just won't crack the phone and unlock this one device for business reasons. Also that because the terrorist are the bad guys, Apple holding up the investigation is a bad thing, and that they should do the patriotic thing and help out the FBI.
When you try to explain that all iphones will be affected by this, they shake their heads in misunderstanding, and think you support the terrorists.
I pity the future generations of this country.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:45 am to BigPerm30
quote:iCloud is magnitudes easier to crack than iOS
I guarantee you if it was some hot chick nudes on that phone some hacker would figure a way to get into that phone.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:46 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:We're just "paranoid"
When you try to explain that all iphones will be affected by this, they shake their heads in misunderstanding, and think you support the terrorists.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:47 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:You just described CAD.
The real problem is that the majority of the US population is ignorant about what is going on- shocker I know.
Most think Apple just won't crack the phone and unlock this one device for business reasons. Also that because the terrorist are the bad guys, Apple holding up the investigation is a bad thing, and that they should do the patriotic thing and help out the FBI.
When you try to explain that all iphones will be affected by this, they shake their heads in misunderstanding, and think you support the terrorists.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:49 am to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:
You just described CAD.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:50 am to NYNolaguy1
Cyber security expert says Apple should comply with FBI order
There seems to be much misinformation about what is being asked of Apple when I read this thread and then other articles on the subject.
The link above says Apple is being asked to help bypass a potential auto-erase application that would allow the FBI to hack the login screen with brute force attempts. That seems to be a far cry from installing a backdoor on the iOS of all phones out of the box, no?
Basically this guy says while both parties are exaggerating the claims, Apple would be wise to comply in an effort to prevent legislation that would mandate a backdoor or else a phone couldn't be sold. That legislation is being pushed in NY and CA already I believe.
There seems to be much misinformation about what is being asked of Apple when I read this thread and then other articles on the subject.
The link above says Apple is being asked to help bypass a potential auto-erase application that would allow the FBI to hack the login screen with brute force attempts. That seems to be a far cry from installing a backdoor on the iOS of all phones out of the box, no?
Basically this guy says while both parties are exaggerating the claims, Apple would be wise to comply in an effort to prevent legislation that would mandate a backdoor or else a phone couldn't be sold. That legislation is being pushed in NY and CA already I believe.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:51 am to StrongBackWeakMind
I think he either enjoys being the local idiot or he thinks he is smart and doesn't realize he is an idiot
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:52 am to Deactived
He initially thought Apple was in the wrong and that they just didn't want to unlock the iPhone.
After he got hammered by people that know what they are talking about, he resorting to trolling and is still trying to play off his ignorance as trolling.
After he got hammered by people that know what they are talking about, he resorting to trolling and is still trying to play off his ignorance as trolling.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:53 am to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:Who's trolling?
After he got hammered by people that know what they are talking about, he resorting to trolling and is still trying to play off his ignorance as trolling.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:53 am to CAD703X
OP has now doubled, (maybe tripled?) down on stupid
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:53 am to slackster
The article I linked says that Apple either can or cannot disable the auto-erase feature, but failure to comply is not a wise move. If Apple can disable the auto-erase feature, then the backdoor already exists and Apple is just helping the FBI discover it. If they cannot disable it from a technical standpoint, then they should come out and say it.
At least this is the just of the article.
At least this is the just of the article.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:54 am to CAD703X
quote:I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. The alternative is worse.
Who's trolling?
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:55 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Hmm. So maybe he is just stupid
I'll go with that
I'll go with that
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:59 am to slackster
quote:
The link above says Apple is being asked to help bypass a potential auto-erase application that would allow the FBI to hack the login screen with brute force attempts. That seems to be a far cry from installing a backdoor on the iOS of all phones out of the box, no?
So let's assume Apple plays along and gives this capability to the FBI. What's to keep them from using this programming on other iphones that weren't in San Bernardino? You think they would get a warrant every time? Or leaking out this programming to hackers to use- our fedgov has a terrible track record of keeping things secure from hackers. Then you have a massive security breach for every iPhone. Lastly, even with this programming, whats to keep third party encryption software from ending up on jailbroken phones? Even with the backdoor, you can still install locally encrypted software that sends encrypted messages that doesn't involve imessage.
The hackers and terrorists won't be affected by this nearly as much as the innocent retail customers. If Apple plays along they have an inherently less secure phone.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:01 am to NYNolaguy1
does anyone REALLLLLY believe there is a truly uncrackable/perfect product?
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