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re: Other Hall of Fame QB's pay tribute to Peyton F. Manning
Posted on 2/11/16 at 9:45 am to lsupride87
Posted on 2/11/16 at 9:45 am to lsupride87
Not trying to be a dick, but lots of the stuff (though I admit I didn't read the entire thread) was just a bunch of conclusions without anything backing it up. Basically all I saw was 30 different ways to say "he changed the way the position was played".
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 9:47 am to SabiDojo
quote:Which is fine. I was just about to throat punch a baby if I was asked to give a reason again
Not trying to be a dick, but lots of the stuff (though I admit I didn't read the entire thread) was just a bunch of conclusions without anything backing it up. Basically all I say was 30 different ways to say "he changed the way the position was played".
I gave reasons, now my reasons could be absolute shite or downright lies, but they are still a freaking reason Posted on 2/11/16 at 9:48 am to SabiDojo
And those same guys will be saying the same thing on Tom Brady's film in 3 years and (probably) Aaron Rodgers' in 8 years.
And Peyton Manning will be grudgingly saying it on some kid that's currently a freshman in high school's holographic video in 25 years.
And Peyton Manning will be grudgingly saying it on some kid that's currently a freshman in high school's holographic video in 25 years.
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 9:49 am
Posted on 2/11/16 at 9:52 am to SabiDojo
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"he changed the way the position was played".
I really don't get this. Yes, he is one of the best to have ever played the position, but how did he change the way other QBs play the position? Because he became a master of film study and was able to read defenses and audible to a new play? That was done for decades, most of the QBs from the 70s & earlier called a lot of their own plays.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 9:54 am to SabiDojo
quote:Exactly. Everything they say might be true. I just want someone to take the advice of all math teachers and "show your work."
Not trying to be a dick, but lots of the stuff (though I admit I didn't read the entire thread) was just a bunch of conclusions without anything backing it up.
Conclusory statements without any support doesn't do much for me.
I went and compiled all pass attempt stats from 1970 to 2015 - entire NFL, top 10 pass attempt offenses, top 5 pass attempt offenses. There was a large spike in pass attempts in 1978-1980 (rule changes and extended season), a minor spike in 1995 (rule changes), and a gradual increase in pass attempts starting in 2010. I didn't see a "Peyton Manning entered the league on this date and then the league learned the benefit of a pass heavy offense" type statistic. The 2010 increase could have been a delayed result of Peyton Manning-style offense, idk.
For your review...
League Average Pass Attempts per Year - 1970 to 2015
Top 10 Average Pass Attempt Offenses per Year - 1970 to 2015
Top 5 Average Pass Attempt Offenses per Year - 1970 to 2015
I wish someone like Greg Cosell would do some comprehensive research.
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