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re: 73 Years ago today: Battle of Stalingrad ends with the surrender of 6th Army

Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:13 am to
Posted by CadesCove
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:13 am to
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Of course, General January wasn't exactly a secret, which makes Barbarossa all the more perplexing.


Hitler believed that Blitzkrieg would work in Russia and they would have things sewed up long before winter truly set in. I have read that he genuinely believed that the Russian people wouldn't fight for the Soviets and would help his forces.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:34 am to
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Hitler believed that Blitzkrieg would work in Russia and they would have things sewed up long before winter truly set in. I have read that he genuinely believed that the Russian people wouldn't fight for the Soviets and would help his forces.


His now infamous quote on the matter of invading Russia....

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'we have only to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down.'.


What's ironic is in the early stages the Germans were indeed greeted as liberators. That was especially true in places like the Baltic countries and Ukraine.There were scenes like this all over the place early on....





Of course these feelings of goodwill among the civilian population was squandered by the German's via their brutality.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:10 pm to
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Hitler believed that Blitzkrieg would work in Russia and they would have things sewed up long before winter truly set in. I have read that he genuinely believed that the Russian people wouldn't fight for the Soviets and would help his forces.


It wasn't a completely unreasonable assumption. He thought the situation in Russia was similar to 1905 to 1917 when the Romanovs barely held on, and he saw that then, like today, the country was a mish-mash of ethnic groups, many of which aren't entirely friendly to Russians. Plus, he thought there was still a significant undercurrent of White support from the civil war.

He had underestimated the lengths to which the Soviets went in the 1930's to consolidate their power. Stalin had an iron grip on that country by 1941.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 1:00 pm to
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Hitler believed that Blitzkrieg would work in Russia and they would have things sewed up long before winter truly set in.
he also believed that you didn't want to capture cities, you wanted to capture armies in the field. That's why there were some points during barbarosa that they captured up to 100k of the red army but went right past cities. The biggest blinder was hitlers order to not have a tactical retreat during the winter months and to not capture Moscow and instead, pushing to the south which ultimately led to stalingrad
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I have read that he genuinely believed that the Russian people wouldn't fight for the Soviets and would help his forces
this actually did happen in some places like the baltics and down in ukraine. The people actually thought the nazis were liberators at first
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