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Russia was able to ship troops from the Far East because their intell indicated the Japanese were not going to attack Russia.

Germany and Japan had a screwy alliance. Japan never declared war on Russia and did not threaten Russia, but as soon as Japan attacked the US Hitler jumped in and declared war on the US three days later.

If Germany stayed out of the Japanese war with the US how would history have changed? How long could Germany have gone against Russia without D-Day, Italy, African campaign involving the US, etc?

I've always wondered why Hitler would do something as stupid as declaring war on the U.S. Yes, he had a treaty with Japan. But that treaty only stated one would come to the aid of the other if that country had been attacked. That's why the Japanese never felt compelled to go to war with the Soviet Union. Germany invaded the Soviet Union unprovoked. Thus Japan had no obligation to go to war with the Soviets. Being that Japan attacked the U.S., Hitler did not have to declare war against the U.S. either. But he did. I'd love to be able to go back and ask him what the hell made him think that was a good idea.

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Posted by athenslife101

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Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:30 am to Darth_Vader

Because, despite claiming neutrality, the US was giving Great Britain a ton of supplies. Hitler wanted an excuse to go after the shipping routes. No one really respected the US military at the time and they didn't think the US would be a real threat

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Posted by genuineLSUtiger

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Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:32 am to Darth_Vader

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I've always wondered why Hitler would do something as stupid as declaring war on the U.S.

Because American corporate interests like Rockefeller and others were funding both the Germans and the Americans. In WW2 many of the German vehicles and tanks were Fords and General Motors. The Nazi's gave Henry Ford their highest award for a citizen. Hitler had a portrait of Ford in his office. The company Ford in fact sued the American government for bombing their german tank factories and they won the lawsuit. Bring these two military giants into conflict and oil and machinery profits skyrocket. All wars of the past two hundred years can be traced back by following the money. War is a huge moneymaker as well as being a huge wedge to convince the population that greater and greater centralization of political and economic power into the hands of a few is a good thing for the good of the citizens. Win-win. The League of Nations after WW1 and the UN after WW2 are two perfect examples. These organizations were planned way before either war ever started. Profits and power. That is what war is all about.

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Posted by ChewyDante

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Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:27 am to Darth_Vader

You do know he made a big speech about it?

I still believe it was his biggest blunder once the war got rolling. In the end, maybe he his fears would have proven right and the US would have entered the war anyway, but Roosevelt had legitimate opposition in Congress to involving the US in the European conflict unprovoked.

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Posted by Champagne

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Posted on 2/2/16 at 1:34 pm to Darth_Vader

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I've always wondered why Hitler would do something as stupid as declaring war on the U.S.

Part of the reason why is because the US Navy was already waging a shooting war against Nazi German seapower assets for a while before Hitler declared war.

The USA was a declared neutral, but, was working very hard to help Great Britain. This help included US Navy involvement in shipping convoy protection, and anti-German submarine operations.

Of course, it was still a stupid move to declare war on the USA.

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