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re: Have you ever done Hallucinogenics? Any Experience in Psychological Treatment?
Posted on 1/18/16 at 7:22 pm to epbart
Posted on 1/18/16 at 7:22 pm to epbart
All BS aside, please show me one person who achieved great things because of the use of hallucinogens. Not just "recreational" use or from time-to-time, but someone who regularly ingested hallucinogens and that use resulted in something positive being visited on the world.
The reference above to "it's not worth the risk" is dead on. yes, some hallucinogens are naturally occuring. So is the gympie-gympie tree, hemlock, and even f'ing oleander. Sure the trip might be great, however you define that, but why does that trump the risk of burdening your loved ones with having to deal with YOUR drug-induced psychosis?
The reference above to "it's not worth the risk" is dead on. yes, some hallucinogens are naturally occuring. So is the gympie-gympie tree, hemlock, and even f'ing oleander. Sure the trip might be great, however you define that, but why does that trump the risk of burdening your loved ones with having to deal with YOUR drug-induced psychosis?
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 7:26 pm to TheCurmudgeon
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please show me one person who achieved great things because of the use of hallucinogens. Not just "recreational" use or from time-to-time, but someone who regularly ingested hallucinogens and that use resulted in something positive being visited on the world.
Amber Lyon
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Sure the trip might be great, however you define that, but why does that trump the risk of burdening your loved ones with having to deal with YOUR drug-induced psychosis?
i long for a society of safe drugs, which prohibition prevents
take fake weed, which is absolutely terrible. it only exists and functions in the market is because real weed is illegal
weed, while is not really within the subject of the OP, is completely harmless. still illegal (and people make the same arguments)
Posted on 1/18/16 at 8:03 pm to TheCurmudgeon
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please show me one person who achieved great things because of the use of hallucinogens.
Square thinking at its squarest: if LSD doesn't make you a more productive tax payer, it's bad.
The trip is the greatness, the revelations are the achievements--most any voyager knows this.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:56 pm to TheCurmudgeon
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All BS aside, please show me one person who achieved great things because of the use of hallucinogens. Not just "recreational" use or from time-to-time, but someone who regularly ingested hallucinogens and that use resulted in something positive being visited on the world.
Francis Crick
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:02 pm to TheCurmudgeon
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All BS aside, please show me one person who achieved great things because of the use of hallucinogens. Not just "recreational" use or from time-to-time, but someone who regularly ingested hallucinogens and that use resulted in something positive being visited on the world.
That's a rather unfair comparison, but maybe Kary Mullis.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:11 am to TheCurmudgeon
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All BS aside, please show me one person who achieved great things because of the use of hallucinogens. Not just "recreational" use or from time-to-time, but someone who regularly ingested hallucinogens and that use resulted in something positive being visited on the
Jimi fricking Hendrix
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:29 am to TheCurmudgeon
LSD helped several Nobel prize winners make amazing discoveries like the structure of DNA as we know it as well as how DNA can be duplicated. You have to have you head up your arse if you really don't believe mind altering chemicals have helped scientists and psychoanalysts.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 7:32 am
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