re: Per Ian Rapoport, 2nd round pick is the asking price

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This is starting to look Ike Loomis and Payton don't have the relationship we all thought

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Definitely this.

This is making me wonder if Loomis told Payton to get rid of some of his buddies and Payton balked and told him "no."

The only good thing if Payton leaves is all the incompetent assistant coaches will move on.

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This is starting to look Ike Loomis and Payton don't have the relationship we all thought

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Could it also be that Ian Rapaport is nuts? And that he was wrong about stuff about the Saints in the past as well?

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This is starting to look Ike Loomis and Payton don't have the relationship we all thought

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I disagree, Payton even has a clause in his contract that IF Loomis vacates his GM position or gets fired then Payton has the right to walk away. You don't put that kind of clause in your contract for somebody unless you have a great freaking relationship with them.

As other posters mentioned, the absolute only reason we should settle for anything less than one 1st is if for some reason Payton wants out and we are eventually planning to release him so we would just take a 2nd round pick instead of getting nothing in return, but I doubt it. And the only reason I could possibly see for Payton to want to leave is if Loomis/Ireland told him that Johnsoh/Vitt/McMahon all had to go and Payton disagreed. All that being said I would still say that even though Payton does not owe New Orleans anything, NOLA/Loomis/Benson all gave Payton full support when the whole BountyGate came up and all pretty much swept the vicodin thing under the rug as much as possible so I do not see any reason for Payton to want to leave.

I personally don't think we should get rid of Payton unless it's for compensation similar to what Gruden got which was (2)1st (2)2nds and $8M cash. There are too many teams looking for a coach, and Payton's name has been "linked" to every single one of them so it would be terrible negotiating on Loomis' part to only get a 2nd