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PSA H&R 35 Whelen scope rail
Posted on 12/13/15 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 12/13/15 at 8:19 pm
I missed 2 deer opening weekend of primitive arms, and haven't had a chance to shoot it since. I was packing up to head to the range today and went to put the 35 in the truck and happened to touch the scope and it moved.
Come to find out, the rail that came mounted on the gun was loose. I never actually checked it when I put a scope on it last year. I may be dumb, but I assumed it would be good from the factory. What do I need to do? Put loctite on the screws holding the rail down?
Just a heads up to anyone buying a gun with the rail already mounted, be sure to make sure it's tightened down securely.
Come to find out, the rail that came mounted on the gun was loose. I never actually checked it when I put a scope on it last year. I may be dumb, but I assumed it would be good from the factory. What do I need to do? Put loctite on the screws holding the rail down?
Just a heads up to anyone buying a gun with the rail already mounted, be sure to make sure it's tightened down securely.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 8:23 pm to REB BEER
I never put loctite, just tighten with a torque driver to appropriate torque. Just tightening them up pretty good will probably do the job.
H&R, you get what you pay for.
H&R, you get what you pay for.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 8:35 pm to REB BEER
You'll need to redo your zero when you tighten it back down.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 8:47 pm to kengel2
Yes loc-tite the rail bolts and proper torque. Do NOT over torque!! .35 puts out lots of energy keep an eye on your scope mounts until you have it locked in zeroed and dependable.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 9:44 pm to REB BEER
REB BEER,
Sorry to hear of your bad luck. Whenever I buy a gun that already has a scope mount attached, I always take the mount off and reattach it. That way, if I have any accuracy problems w/ the gun, I'll know it's not related to the scope mount. Here's the procedure I've developed after many years of shooting:
1.Remount the base, using BLUE Loc-Tite (NOT red). I always use the $10 Weaver bases, even on my prairie dog handguns; I'm not familiar w/ the PSA mount, but hopefully if's of decent quality. Before installing the scope base w/ Loc-Tite, individually check the length of each screw. Put the base in place, then screw in a screw into the intended hole. If the screw is too long, cut off the excess w/ a Dremel tool or get a new screw. If the screw is in all the way and the base is not tight, the screw is too short. It should have a minimum of 3 threads for it to have adequate strength. If it's too short, it will need to be replaced. Remove the screw and repeat this step w/ each screw in a different hole. Each screw should be tight enough to attach the mount very tightly.
2. Remount the rings. I don't use Loc-Tite on the rings. Be sure the screws attaching the upper/lower rings are equally tightened. If the rings have not been lapped, do so. If you don't have the equipment to lap them or don't feel comfortable doing it, change the rings to Burris Signature Z-Rings (the ones w/ plastic inserts).
3. Use a torque wrench (and follows it's recs) to adjust the mount, rings and action screws. I like the Wheeler torque wrench.
Good luck! Let us know how it turns out.
Sorry to hear of your bad luck. Whenever I buy a gun that already has a scope mount attached, I always take the mount off and reattach it. That way, if I have any accuracy problems w/ the gun, I'll know it's not related to the scope mount. Here's the procedure I've developed after many years of shooting:
1.Remount the base, using BLUE Loc-Tite (NOT red). I always use the $10 Weaver bases, even on my prairie dog handguns; I'm not familiar w/ the PSA mount, but hopefully if's of decent quality. Before installing the scope base w/ Loc-Tite, individually check the length of each screw. Put the base in place, then screw in a screw into the intended hole. If the screw is too long, cut off the excess w/ a Dremel tool or get a new screw. If the screw is in all the way and the base is not tight, the screw is too short. It should have a minimum of 3 threads for it to have adequate strength. If it's too short, it will need to be replaced. Remove the screw and repeat this step w/ each screw in a different hole. Each screw should be tight enough to attach the mount very tightly.
2. Remount the rings. I don't use Loc-Tite on the rings. Be sure the screws attaching the upper/lower rings are equally tightened. If the rings have not been lapped, do so. If you don't have the equipment to lap them or don't feel comfortable doing it, change the rings to Burris Signature Z-Rings (the ones w/ plastic inserts).
3. Use a torque wrench (and follows it's recs) to adjust the mount, rings and action screws. I like the Wheeler torque wrench.
Good luck! Let us know how it turns out.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 10:56 pm to REB BEER
whenever we sell those POS, we always pop the base off, loctite the screws (blue) and torque it back on. H&R has (or had, lol) the worst QA in the industry and they should not be trusted in any way
Posted on 12/14/15 at 7:57 am to TigerOnThe Hill
I probably won't have time to fool with it until after hunting season. I have another POS H&R to use for the week of primitive arms at the end of the season.
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