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3 scope choices...opinions wanted please
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:08 pm
Meopta meopro 4.5x14x50
Vortex viper pst 4x16x50 or 6x24x50
leupold vx-3 4.5x14x50
For whitetail hunting and pig hunting. Mule deer, elk, and pronghorn are on agenda as well. On a 7 rem mag. Clarity and low light visibility are my most important factors. What are yalls opinions? Thanks.
Vortex viper pst 4x16x50 or 6x24x50
leupold vx-3 4.5x14x50
For whitetail hunting and pig hunting. Mule deer, elk, and pronghorn are on agenda as well. On a 7 rem mag. Clarity and low light visibility are my most important factors. What are yalls opinions? Thanks.
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:10 pm to 4mileduckman
igchris would have some great insight here
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:30 pm to 4mileduckman
I have both the leupold and vortex you are asking about, between those 2 the vortex and it is not even close
I do not have a meopta but I would put their glass quality very close to vortex. I am partial to vortex so I would go with that, some extras you get with vortex that I am not sure about with the meopta include the 30 MM tube, the illuminated reticale, and side focus knob. Some people have said they have problems with the vortex and eye relief, I have not and my best friend has same scope and he has not
I do not have a meopta but I would put their glass quality very close to vortex. I am partial to vortex so I would go with that, some extras you get with vortex that I am not sure about with the meopta include the 30 MM tube, the illuminated reticale, and side focus knob. Some people have said they have problems with the vortex and eye relief, I have not and my best friend has same scope and he has not
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:42 pm to 4mileduckman
I am a vortex guy - 4x16x50 is as big as I would go unless you are planning long shots (500+ yards that require high magnification). I shoot the Diamondback HP 3x12x42, and it is a better low light scope than any of the 50mm objectives, in fact I am switching most of them over to the Diamondback series (1" tube).
A little about objectives and better low light visibility - Exit Pupil (diameter of available light at the optic nerve) is calculated by dividing the objective lens diameter by the power of magnification. So a 3-9x40mm scope has an exit pupil of 13.333 at 3x, 6.667 at 6x and 4.444 at 9x; while the 3-9x50 scope has an exit pupil of 16.667 at 3x, 8.333 at 6x and 5.556 at 9x. Even if you have great eyesight your eyes can not use all of the light provide by either scope at 3x. The reality is that this difference is so small that it's almost insignificant.
Exception / Big Exception......at 9x the 50mm scope has a 25% larger exit pupil than the 40mm scope. This is significant! since our eyes allow in an approximate circle of light. A 50mm scope provides 56% more available and useable (by our eyes) light than the 40mm scope at 9x! However, this is only useful if you hunt at 9x power. If you hunt at any magnification less your not getting the benefit of this 56% greater light. But if you hunt at dusk at 9x, then 56% additional light is a big benefit!
A little about objectives and better low light visibility - Exit Pupil (diameter of available light at the optic nerve) is calculated by dividing the objective lens diameter by the power of magnification. So a 3-9x40mm scope has an exit pupil of 13.333 at 3x, 6.667 at 6x and 4.444 at 9x; while the 3-9x50 scope has an exit pupil of 16.667 at 3x, 8.333 at 6x and 5.556 at 9x. Even if you have great eyesight your eyes can not use all of the light provide by either scope at 3x. The reality is that this difference is so small that it's almost insignificant.
Exception / Big Exception......at 9x the 50mm scope has a 25% larger exit pupil than the 40mm scope. This is significant! since our eyes allow in an approximate circle of light. A 50mm scope provides 56% more available and useable (by our eyes) light than the 40mm scope at 9x! However, this is only useful if you hunt at 9x power. If you hunt at any magnification less your not getting the benefit of this 56% greater light. But if you hunt at dusk at 9x, then 56% additional light is a big benefit!
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:45 pm to 4mileduckman
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Meopta meopro 4.5x14x50
Vortex viper pst 4x16x50 or 6x24x50
leupold vx-3 4.5x14x50
While I think the Leupold VX-II is one of the best scopes at its price point, that's where it ends for me and the gold rings. The VX-3 is a nice scope but better glass (like the Meopta) is available for similar coin.
If you can still find one, the old Zeiss Conquest was an awesome scope for the money.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:50 pm to 4mileduckman
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Vortex viper pst 4x16x50
Posted on 11/25/15 at 3:29 pm to 4mileduckman
I'm a leupold whore. Buy the leupold.
Made in America, lifetime warranty, great glass.
Those will all carry you beyond legal shooting hours.
Made in America, lifetime warranty, great glass.
Those will all carry you beyond legal shooting hours.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 3:34 pm to 4mileduckman
Since its for hunting. Id probably skip the PST and do the Vortex HS or HS LR, the HS has capped turrets and the HS LR has a capped windage turret.
For a hunting scope I dont really like exposed turrets, if you get a scope with exposed turrets at the very least it must have a zero stop. Riding around on 4 wheelers and running around the woods its pretty easy to bump a turret and throw off a shot.
Hell, I went to a match and was prepared. Still managed to get a full revolution of the turret off and zeroed the stage because I was only shooting like 7 feet high at 700.
Just a thought. Cant go wrong with any of those scopes.
For a hunting scope I dont really like exposed turrets, if you get a scope with exposed turrets at the very least it must have a zero stop. Riding around on 4 wheelers and running around the woods its pretty easy to bump a turret and throw off a shot.
Hell, I went to a match and was prepared. Still managed to get a full revolution of the turret off and zeroed the stage because I was only shooting like 7 feet high at 700.
Just a thought. Cant go wrong with any of those scopes.
This post was edited on 11/25/15 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 11/25/15 at 3:36 pm to 4mileduckman
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On a 7 rem mag
nikon prostaff 7 BDC 4x16 50mm
Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:07 pm to 4mileduckman
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:49 pm to 4mileduckman
Told you he would be helpful. He and Carson are on their game. Take their word to the bank.
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