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Maybe Les isnt the problem...

Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:59 am
Posted by cwhutton1
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
12 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:59 am
There are differing opinions on this topic, but we can all pretty much come to the conclusion that the play calling in Baton Rouge needs to change. When you run the ball on 1st and 2nd down every drive, and then pass on third down every single time, teams catch on to that. It's also pretty obvious when you put in Quinn and Diarse that you are going to run the ball. Out of all of the times that only Quinn and Diarse are in the game this season, they have passed ONCE. Come on now. Mix it up a little. Im sure that if some fans that have never played a down of football in their life can recognize it, what do you think a D1 head coach or defensive coordinator can do? Just my thoughts...
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27941 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:00 pm to
I just think some of our biggest position players aren't that good

Harris is a bottom tier sec QB. Plain and simple
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:00 pm to
Come on man,you can't be serious.He's pulling the strings,always has.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24618 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:02 pm to
He's been here 11 years and has gone through multiple coordinators yet we still have the same issues year in and year out.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9707 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:04 pm to
The people he hired is
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10499 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:11 pm to
This isn't about play calling and way too many people keep making it simply about the QB or poor offense. This program is degrading steadily and people choose to ignore it.

Despite having one of if not the highest paid coaching staffs in the country outside of Les big salary, LSU has consistently looked inept in multiple phases of the game. He's refused to adjust on the offense, made poor hiring choices on the defense, sacrificed skilled coaches for recruiters, and in the end despite the classes' high rankings, left a team with gaping holes and 4* upperclassmen getting beat out by freshmen due to lack of development at numerous positions.

He has a scapegoat every time, but the issues are the same. Confusion, disorganization, lack of discipline. These aren't new things and have spanned multiple hires.

Everyone loves to claim Les is loyal to his players and coaches, yet he needs to be loyal to LSU. When it isn't working out, he needs to cut ties immediately, but instead lets them drag on too long. See Crowton, Studs, Haley, BDP, etc. If they aren't getting the job done, it is time to move on as soon as you can. These are grown men that will find themselves jobs if they deserve them.

Everyone blames gaping holes in our defensive talent and depth on Chavis and Haley, yet ignores the horrid management Les has had with recruiting classes. We'll recruit the hell out of DBs and WRs only to not use the WRs and only a few of the DBs while DL and LBer are left hollow. Les makes the recruiting plan and strategy. Name me another successful SEC coach that has gone entire seasons without a DT or LBer in a recruiting class much less multiple ones?
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10159 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:11 pm to
I didn't see evidence that Les isn't to blame

LSU under Les has always been predictable by personnel and formation regardless of the OC.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 12:14 pm
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5142 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:12 pm to
He's had 4 or 5 OCs... same offense every time. The only exceptions are with QBs mentored under *other* coaching staffs.

The defense has depth issues, LB is extremely thin next year, special teams is a mess.

Les is the problem. It's been a good run, wish him well, but his time has come and gone.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69255 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:13 pm to
LSU has been thrown on first down a lot this season.

Posted by xxKylexx
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
4039 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:18 pm to
I love Miles, I really do. He's original and unique, but the game has passed him by.
Posted by scubafeet
baton rouge, la
Member since Feb 2004
14285 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:44 pm to
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There are differing opinions on this topic, but we can all pretty much come to the conclusion that the play calling in Baton Rouge needs to change. When you run the ball on 1st and 2nd down every drive, and then pass on third down every single time, teams catch on to that. It's also pretty obvious when you put in Quinn and Diarse that you are going to run the ball. Out of all of the times that only Quinn and Diarse are in the game this season, they have passed ONCE. Come on now. Mix it up a little. Im sure that if some fans that have never played a down of football in their life can recognize it, what do you think a D1 head coach or defensive coordinator can do? Just my thoughts...


Anyone, and I mean ANYONE that thinks coordinator change, or thinks Les Miles isn't 99% responsible for plays being run in every offense he has ever coached....you should never COMMENT on another thread or in public again!

LES MILES has been the exact same coach at OSU and LSU. People wanted him to fire the OC at OSU because their offense was bland and un creative! That OC was Gundy, the guy that lights up the passing yards and scoreboards up there now. IT WAS LES MILES holding that offense back and every single offense he coaches!! Do you think its just some miracle that every OC we find brings in the toss dive play that no other team on earth has or does run????

Amazes me how people refuse to look at history to predict the future! I guess that's what makes you a Les Miles supporter, I don't think he watches film or cares what has worked in the past, he formats his memory every game!
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