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re: LSU will be the most coveted HC position in a long time

Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by gatorubet
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Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:30 pm to
The question is: can you risk becoming a Miami or Tennessee? Neither of them thought they would wander in the wilderness for years when they got rid of their coach for not winning MNCs.

Get Les a hot young OC and tell him to stay the hell out of the way would be a better plan. Let the wunderkind bring in the hot QBs, and get rid of the predictable and boring offense. Les is a recruiting beast. The rest can be accomplished with assistants.
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
6166 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:39 pm to
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Get Les a hot young OC and tell him to stay the hell out of the way would be a better plan. Let the wunderkind bring in the hot QBs, and get rid of the predictable and boring offense. Les is a recruiting beast. The rest can be accomplished with assistants.


Man, you people are thick
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 11/22/15 at 5:42 pm to
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Get Les a hot young OC and tell him to stay the hell out of the way would be a better plan. Let the wunderkind bring in the hot QBs, and get rid of the predictable and boring offense. Les is a recruiting beast. The rest can be accomplished with assistants.
The problem is I don't think you can do that with these long-tenured past-success coaches. Either they view themselves as the program, or when what worked X years ago doesn't now it's either the players failing to execute (which happens all the time) and/or assistants have failed to coach them up properly. It's like a general who fights the last war (or battle). Or like the generals in WWI who didn't account for the enemy adjusting (belt fed machine guns) and kept telling soldiers to run across barren muddy hole ridden ground with artillery landing on them up to the point they are in range of the MG's... then wonder why it didn't work. The answer they come up is "well, it worked against Napoleon, so it's not me, the troops are unmotivated, I'll court martial a couple and that'll fix the problem".

The list of these are long, just off the top of my head:
Parsigian
Holtz
Bowden
Majors
M. Brown
Schembechler
Hayes
Robinson, 2 of them (USC & Grambling)
Alvarez
Paterno

Exceptions: Saban (has repeated success), Ferentz (just now getting to ceiling), Meyer (left on his own at right time)

I'm probably missing a few on both lists. Again, just off top of my head.


All had to be forced out as a retiree, left until health caught up with them, or out right fired after a couple years of not being able to match past successes. Except for Woody and . He just went rockers
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