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re: Zeke Elliot trashes OSU coaching staff in post game comments.

Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:36 pm to
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:36 pm to
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Elliott wasn't critical of the play-calling (although, he did mention it was a "pretty simple game plan" based on the opponent's D), and he got one less carry than he did vs. Michigan St. The difference is that the Team won!


Precisely. This is our whole point. He threw his coaches under the bus because they lost. That is something that someone that lacks maturity does. Pretty simple.
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:06 pm to
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Precisely. This is our whole point. He threw his coaches under the bus because they lost. That is something that someone that lacks maturity does. Pretty simple.
Ummm the offense worked in the first game; they didn't need Zeke. They needed to give it to Zeke, when it was clear their game plan sucked.

How are you having problems understanding this?
Posted by inadaze
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:32 pm to
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He threw his coaches under the bus because they lost.


I don't think that's appropriate phrasing in this instance because of the crucial factor of the Ohio St. coaches not setting up the O to run in the way that it had the potential to this year. That's the key factor for me on giving Elliott leeway in this situation, and I think if you got Urban Meyer to speak candidly, he would probably agree with that. I think this is something that has probably been building up for Elliott, and in some ways for other players also. I explained this with my first post in the thread when I referenced the mistake in offensive strategy having a psychological effect.

There is no point that you or anyone else in the thread is making that is lost on me. In fact, you have quoted me when you go the crux of your argument. And I have explained, going back to my first post in the thread, that I have a specific reason for making an exception in this instance.

To a lesser degree, I also give Elliott some leeway because football is a very emotional, violent game, and these comments were made right after the game. This kind of thing is going to happen sometimes. You say that you see immature whining. I think that is insulting, and lacks perspective. I see a passionate young guy who cares deeply about his Team, and being their focal point (Back to my main reason for leeway, I don't think he should be the main guy. I think he should be a main guy, with Barrett, Jones, and Miller more involved and playing together more often.) on O this year, I'm sure he felt that he let his teammates (and a lot of other people) down -- that's the aspect relative to himself that it seems a lot of people aren't considering -- he's the guy (Again, I don't even think he should be in that position to be the guy. Ohio St. has other options, but they are contingent on creative play-calling.) on Offense who could have made a difference in the outcome, but he wasn't really given the opportunity. He had a moment of passionate candor -- I don't think it's really a big deal based on the context and the key factors I've mentioned. If the circumstances were different, I may agree with you, but in this instance, I don't.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 9:41 pm
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