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re: in retrospect, Cars is not the shitshow the MTV Board argues

Posted on 10/7/15 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 3:54 pm to
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Toy Story is so great because the universe is incredibly layered and incredibly terrifying when you think about it. Toy Story 1 didn't even crack surface, with only going after a kid who loves blowing up his toys. These toys Gods are children, Gods that will certainly abandon them at some point, and that creates quite a fricked up little world about a group that is doomed to be left for dead in a landfill.



Nothing close to resembling this has ever crossed the mind of any kid while watching Toy Story. They are thinking wouldn't it be cool if my toys could come to life, like in Doc McStuffins.

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It's ridiculous and requires almost no creativity besides car puns.

in your opinion.

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It is not important at all in the Cars franchise that they are cars.

Why does this matter?
It's not important that Simba is a lion. Where's the bitching for that murderous movie that was given a 1 seed if i recall correctly. Did we really need minions? we couldn't just use midgets like on Willy Wonka? Why did Nemo have to be a fish? they could have all been humans and told the same exact story? Why did they have the little gnomes in Frozen? could have just been humans.

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These movies tell us about the light and dark sides of nature that we take for granted, and everyone can relate to them. Not so much with Cars.


Everyone except kids, b/c they aren't thinking that deep about this kids movie.
So you don't think Cars told a story that kids can relate to? you think it was just cars acting like humans and pointless?
Cars is simple. It's a funny movie that centers around friendship. There's no deep thoughts needed. It shows us that we can be friends with people that may seem different at first or have different interest, once we get to know them. That is something every kid experiences many times in life, as well as adults.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:03 pm to
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Nothing close to resembling this has ever crossed the mind of any kid while watching Toy Story. They are thinking wouldn't it be cool if my toys could come to life, like in Doc McStuffins.



Kids are much smarter than you give them credit for. They aren't drooling idiots and can absorb things much better than the average adult. A 3 year old might not get it, but a 6 year old will realize as he's watching the series that he will outgrow his toys and turn into Andy. He can comprehend the inevitable fate of his toys. He may put it out of mind after watching the movie, but they will be able to comprehend what is going on.

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in your opinion.


Name a quality joke that doesn't have the punchline that has to do with Cars or the fact that a car is doing human or animal like things?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110063 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:23 pm to
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Why does this matter?


Because it makes the film ultimately pointless.

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It's not important that Simba is a lion. Where's the bitching for that murderous movie that was given a 1 seed if i recall correctly.


I'll grant you that the Lion King could be done in the human world, but there is also a hierarchy that is still conformed to what we know about nature in the Lion King. Lions are kings, lions murder each other to control prides, hyenas are ruled by matriarchs and are arch enemies to lions, and warthogs stink. How many animal puns are there in the Lion King? Not many. We believe in them as characters first. Cars though has nothing but car jokes. It doesn't make sense in the way their world works at all, while it does in the Lion King.

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Did we really need minions? we couldn't just use midgets like on Willy Wonka?


The Minions are just funny, and we didn't need to know where they came from, unlike the Cars.

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Why did Nemo have to be a fish? they could have all been humans and told the same exact story?


No, unlike the Lion King, it is necessary from the plot that Nemo is a fish. There is a large hierarchy to this world and how it interacts with humanity. Large plot points change if everyone is of the same species. Lightning McQueen could have just been a racer who gets lost as he does in the movie, and the plot is the same.

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Why did they have the little gnomes in Frozen?


To be honest, I didn't see the need for the trolls either in Frozen.

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Everyone except kids, b/c they aren't thinking that deep about this kids movie.
So you don't think Cars told a story that kids can relate to? you think it was just cars acting like humans and pointless?
Cars is simple. It's a funny movie that centers around friendship. There's no deep thoughts needed. It shows us that we can be friends with people that may seem different at first or have different interest, once we get to know them. That is something every kid experiences many times in life, as well as adults.


I never said that Cars isn't relatable. I can relate to what's going on with the characters. Unfortunately what's going on with the characters has absolutely nothing to do with them being cars. If the toys were human in Toy Story, the plot falls apart. If the emotions were human in Inside Out, the plot falls apart. If Wall-e and EVE are human, the plot falls apart. What these characters are is important in most of Pixar's work, and then Pixar takes what they are and how that helps define their character. Nothing about them being cars affects these characters' personality. While I haven't seen it, Cars 2 is a spy film for crying out loud.
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