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re: The 10 Most Disappointing Superhero Films all of time(article)

Posted on 8/13/15 at 12:01 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 12:01 am to
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Really? Man of Steel over Superman Returns? gtfo



I think most people here are mistaking the term "worse" for "disappointing". Man of Steel my expectations were sky high that they were going to get it right, and they just didn't. Superman Returns I think people knew was more of the same Donner like version. Yes, some super stupid parts, but all in all I find MoS more disappointing.

And you say that when you put X2 as the second most disappointing superhero film of all time?
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:07 am to
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I think most people here are mistaking the term "worse" for "disappointing".



It's disappointing people don't understand the idea behind the article.

Reeves was tired of playing Superman,Donner was long gone. Superman III sucked. After Batman Forever-a second straight change under cowl and devolving costumes design and a guy too old to play Grayson as Robin.


Elektra was released in January.

Catwoman wasn't about Selina Kyle and no Batman connections-we knew this going in.

Ghost Rider II-did anyone expect this franchise to course correct and be great? Please raise your hand if that's the case.


Now if this was the worse Superhero movies of all time, I'd agree with some of the threads nominations.
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:33 am to
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And you say that when you put X2 as the second most disappointing superhero film of all time
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I think most people here are mistaking the term "worse" for "disappointing



I feel like you don't understand that a "disappointing" list will be more subjective than a "worse" list. usually dissapointments are what skew someone's bias towards thinking a film is shitty in the first place.

So, if xmen was someone's favorite comic growing up....its going to make their top ten "disappointing" list.

And Superman Returns was hyped by the media non stop back then. You couldn't read an entertainment magazine or watch any news show without Superman Returns talk. So much of it about Brandon as the new Superman. It even finished with a 76% on rotten timatoes. Yes, for me, highly disappointing compared to man of steel.

Sounds like you succumbed to the TD hype
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 3:50 am
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 4:03 am to
Well personal preference to a movie is of course going to play a large part.

Superman Returns was a continuation of the Donner films by a guy who left another successful franchise before shooting...so yeah there was tons of hype.


Man of Steel was a breath of fresh air to some because it wasn't the same old superman story.

The reality is that Superman I was such an iconic film that almost every film after that has been a letdown to different sections of the fans.

Posted by Bankshot
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 8:34 am to
It's implied that Zod and the others were left to die if you go by the theatrical version of Superman II.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 8:39 am to
My only point is just don't go bashing people putting MoS above Superman Returns when you have a film largely regarded as one of the Top 10 Superhero films ever made on your list. It can be disappointing for you as an X-Men fan, but MoS was disappointing to me being a big Superman fan. It did some things right, but it just tried way too hard to distance itself from the Donner versions.
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 8:41 am
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 11:08 am to
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How many Disney films contain mass genocide in them?


Not many, but they did allow massive destruction porn in the Avengers. The city of New York is placed under siege, and many innocent people die. So it's clear that Disney would allow Joss Whedon to allow an attack by a villain on a major city because, well, it happened in the last movie he did for them with the same characters.

The reason the Avengers does not get the same scorn for destruction porn is that the heroes seemed genuinely concerned for people's safety. They went out of their way to save civilians and minimize casualties. They could have taken the same tact with Ultron (and I don't care that they used a fictional country, that is par for the course in Marvel which has a long history of making places up: Mandripoor, Latveria, Wakunda, Genosha, etc.)

I think its far more likely Whedon made the changes, sensitive to the Man of Steel blowback. I also don't thin kits unreasonable for Marvel to exercise some editorial control. Their brand essentially gives a director an automatic hit and they give them access to a huge budget and pretty much any cast they want. In exchange for that, you occasionally have to put Falcon in one scene of your Ant-Man film.
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 11:23 am to
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My only point is just don't go bashing people
what? I expressed my surprise. Lol
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 11:28 am to
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Not many, but they did allow massive destruction porn in the Avengers. The city of New York is placed under siege, and many innocent people die. So it's clear that Disney would allow Joss Whedon to allow an attack by a villain on a major city because, well, it happened in the last movie he did for them with the same characters.


Yeah, but I can't remember a citizen dying on screen. Some of SHIELD does, but they volunteered for this. Ultron clearly wants to massacre the innocents, while all Loki really cares about is ruling. If Earth just surrendered without any fight, I doubt Loki himself would be needlessly cruel to humanity and let them mostly go on their merry way so long as they treated him as a God (although Thanos would probably prevent this). Ultron does care about power and can't be reasoned with. He's a pure monster without any mercy. He didn't really come off as such in the film.
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 11:30 am
Posted by prince of fools
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 12:02 pm to
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3.Man of Steel (WB)
Man of Steel may not be as outwardly terrible as many of the films on this list, but it holds the distinction of being one of the most disappointing.While most fans would say that Snyder captured an aspect of Superman that had never been seen onscreen in his no holds barred physicality, many also felt that the film veered too far in this direction, heaping on wanton destruction (and a generous but unspoken body count)




Despite his explanation, I still don't know why people were disappointed by this movie.

I would say that Age of Ultron was disappointing. Not because Ultron didn't kill enough people (which is a stupid reason, OLM) but because they introduced the Scarlet Witch. Her acting was awful, her character was awful and the fact that she's going to be in future movies is just awful.
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 2:04 pm to
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Still one of the funner Xbox games I played.
Hell yea it was. I've always said that Wolverine is a rated R superhero. I loved that we finally got to see that in that game. Underneath his skin, he's essentially a terminator. I'm glad we got to see his regeneration process the way it should be seen.



We also got to see the raw violence that Wolverine is. The amount of blood and damage he would cause with his claws can only be given proper justice with an R rating.

Posted by biglego
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 2:27 pm to
Could you imagine a dark Wolverine series, a la Daredevil? Esp on HBO or Netflix? It would be amazing. I never thought of him as a terminator with skin but it really fits, and claws like his would lop of heads and arms effortlessly.
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 2:29 pm to
Sure, Superman Returns had some boring scenes and plot points (retread of real estate scheme, Bosworth as Lois)... But it was far from a bad movie. I thought Routh was great as both Clark and Kal-El. The tone of the movie and it's depiction of who Superman is was on point. Also, the Airplane scene was freaking awesome. No one can diffute that.

Man Of Steel? Hard to root for a superhero who let his dad get sucked up into a tornado.
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 2:32 pm
Posted by abellsujr
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 2:33 pm to
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Could you imagine a dark Wolverine series, a la Daredevil? Esp on HBO or Netflix? It would be amazing. I never thought of him as a terminator with skin but it really fits, and claws like his would lop of heads and arms effortlessly.
That would be awesome. It's time for them to do Wolverine justice.
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 2:36 pm to
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Man Of Steel? Hard to root for a superhero who let his dad get sucked up into a tornado.
And for me, it's hard to root for a superhero spending his time stalking an engaged chick from the shadows. The Cavill Superman would have made Routh his bitch.
Posted by TexasTiger34
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 4:54 pm to
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 5:50 pm to
Dark Knight Rises > Age of Ultron
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 6:08 pm to
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And for me, it's hard to root for a superhero spending his time stalking an engaged chick from the shadows. The Cavill Superman would have made Routh his bitch.

It's befuddling why people didn't enjoy Cavills superman. I thought it was overdue to have a Superman movie with action, intensity, and carnage. Cavill did a great job portraying a young Superman who was just learning his own strength. I expect he'll mature and become more cognizant of the damage he can do, but it sure is nice to see a superman who doesn't pussy around the whole time.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 6:56 pm to
No way. AoU had a lot of moving parts, but it wasn't the letdown TDKR was. That film, ignored a lot it's own rules.

Age of Ultron was more a victim of Marvel cutting enough to fit more show times in to increase sales.

Marvel studios is probably smart enough to learn from this mistake.
Posted by redandblackattack
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 8:36 pm to
I concur,,,IMHO a much better/deeper..well written movie...even if it did ignore some of its own rules....which I agree with the above poster that it did..
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 8:38 pm
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