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re: Craig Biggio becomes 1st Astro inducted into baseball hall of fame

Posted on 7/26/15 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 7/26/15 at 5:20 pm to
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How so? I asked and I am still waiting for a signature play from Biggio.


Baseball plays? Baseball plays are primarily defensive, and you're talking about a mediocre defensive shortstop.

Using "signature plays" as a criteria would make a guy like Robert Horry a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Give me a Barry Bonds(yes he's a HoFer) signature play.Or a Cal Ripken play.

Alomar had signature plays, all defensive.

Griffey had a signature plays, mostly defensive.

Chipper doesn't have signature plays and he's a superior player to Jeter.

Home Runs can be signature plays in big moments, but the team has to get there. The Baseball Hall of Fame is mostly about numbers.

Jeter's numbers aren't good enough to get him in the first ballot.

Rivera is the only one of the 90s Yankees that deserves first ballot status. Hell he was the primary reason they won so many titles.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 7/26/15 at 5:28 pm to
I lived Rivera but no, he accounted for such a small percentage of innings he was not the reason they have the titles. In fact he blew several opportunities for the Yankees as he saved some as well. The early Yankees teams had Rivera in the set up role.
Jeters defense is overrated by gold glove standards but thoughtout his career he was an average defensive player. He didn't hurt the Yankees (-9.5 wins over course of 20 years) and he didn't help the Yankees. He has several iconic defensive plays the dive and the flip being two... also home run against O's, home run against D-Bscks, etc.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41296 posts
Posted on 7/26/15 at 5:57 pm to
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Jeter's numbers aren't good enough to get him in the first ballot.



6th all time in hits, only Rose, Cobb, Aaron, Speaker and Musial have more hits. Jeter played fewer years than all of them.
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