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re: asik out of eurobasket...back spasms

Posted on 7/27/15 at 6:12 am to
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9842 posts
Posted on 7/27/15 at 6:12 am to
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You're not even trying with a guy like ryno because you despise his game/where he's from and whatnot. We're in semi agreement about jrue but he'll be fine at what he'll be asked to do. Your other reasoning on him seems more personal than basketball.


I don't personally hate any of them. I don't like them as basketball players, which is a totally different thing. I'm not a psychotic guy holding some kind of grudge. I just don't think they are all that. I even explained why. I have done so over and over. I get that people like Anderson. He seems to be a nice, attractive guy and is a good spokesman. I don't care for his game, his role, think he is unnecessary and overpaid. We have gone over that many times. Some people here really value that type of a player and don't care about the money. I just don't agree. As far as Anderson's personal issues, and they were tragic. That's not something that I pay attention to. Guy's marriages and families should be personal. Not sure what else to say on that.

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So pretty much nothing he(or has done) does will change your opinion? He changed his came to COMPENSATE for whatever he lost in injury. He's tried for over the past 2 years to intergrate and get the way he is now. He's acknowledged himself that he made mistakes(shite we all do). He finally got the right treatment plan by going to L.A,if a player finds a way to get right I wouldn't care if he went to russia/china if that's what it took(and neither should you). I've had my share of semi-bashing EG but this is like we're talking about DRose who's a far worse case. Again this melt of yours proves my previous points


You cannot seriously be this naïve and have that short of a memory. That statement is just full of so much fail, I don't even know where to begin. He had to search for the right treatment? He hurt his knee. Even if it would have been microfracture. He would have been healed twice as fast as the route he took. You want me to slap the guy in the back and be proud of a guy making max money whose numbers have declined every year he has been here? He scored 13 ppg last year. Sweet, he shot 3s really well. But he still ending up with a horrible shooting %. Why would you be excited about that? He has made over 40 million dollars the past 4 years and is going to make close to 16 this season. He is the 25th highest paid player in the game this coming season. All of that, and all you hope for is a good shooter. That is just kind of sad.

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That hasn't been all their fault. Winning cures anything


This doesn't make sense to me. You just can't depend on winning to bring in fans and support. You should do whatever it takes to appeal to the fans and make the game more enjoyable. Fans, even casual ones, like certain players and having some local guys or keeping favorites is a good way to forge greater support. It's not a crazy thing and the end of the bench doesn't matter enough to not give it a try. The team has gone out of their way to not try this.

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They had scrubs/journeymen/Euros on their team play big roles well before guys like Kawhi. Most rookies didn't play a huge part in their success. Their bench at times(and even some of their better role players) were "just a bunch of guys" thrown together. The key thing is a great coach that puts them to use in their greatest areas of strength


I don't get how you can take a team like the Spurs and the way they were constructed and twist it to match ours, then say that coaching makes it all work. That's not how it happens. Player development and acquisition is a huge piece of the puzzle. We are doing nothing similar to them, except we got a great player #1.

I'll let the Aldridge thing go. I'm sure Texas wasn't that big of a deal. Even though he left a playoff team and more money to go to another team and the teams he picked from were all in the state of Texas. I guess that was just a coincidence..
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1531 posts
Posted on 7/27/15 at 7:27 am to
brmark, I have read everything you have said in this thread. You have brought up some fair points; however, the problem is that your ultimate goal doesn't seem to be winning (for the team). Winning takes actual, quality NBA players. You listed 9 guys, other than Davis, who you have "pulled for" over the last 6-7 years. Of those 9, 30 teams have agreed 3 are not NBA level players, 2 are last men on the bench types because of their names, and the other four are journeyman backups. Seriously, you could have high hopes or "like" these guys, but the team could not keep them. I would have loved Jimmer to have been good but he wasn't. Cut bait and move on.

You don't like Gordon, Holiday, Evans, or Anderson but these guys are actual quality NBA players. They have all averaged double figure points for their career. Are they perfect players? Absolutely not, but they can be solid contributors to a winning NBA team. Those other guys who you "cared about" cannot. That's where I don't get the logic.

The one thing the most negative guys on the board and the biggest sunshine pumpers could always agree on was that this team was not being maximized through coaching. We now have a whole new staff which I think is a reason for optimism. I'll admit, I was not huge on Gentry, but if you take out his head coaching history from a decade ago or longer and look at his recent assistant coaching, he deserved shot. Erman has also had recent success as an assistant. Let's all pray for health and see what the new staff can come up with to help the NBA quality players on our roster. I'd be willing to bet if the team starts winning, you will start "liking" or "investing" in these guys a little more.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15300 posts
Posted on 7/27/15 at 7:42 am to
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I don't personally hate any of them. I don't like them as basketball players, which is a totally different thing


bullshite, just a day ago you said you don't like Anderson because he is white.
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