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re: James Harden wins The Players' NBA MVP award

Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:00 pm to
Let me do some quick math for ya bro since you don't seem capable of doing it on your own.

Howard missed 41 games.

He averages 32 mpg being conservative.

Thats 1312 Minutes.

His win share per 48 in HOU is .154

1312 * .154 = 202.05 Take that and divide by 48 and you get 4.21 ... Pretty close to 5 wins if you ask me.


Now that's if you go by win shares.

Or you can throw win shares out the window and know just by watching the games that Dwight howard has more of an impact on wins that Jrue Holiday. Or 41 games of Howard v 13 games of Davis.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111690 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:03 pm to
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Take that and divide by 48 and you get 4.21 ... Pretty close to 5 wins if you ask me
So, you admit saying 5 is a conservative estimate is wrong, is that what you're saying? If so, I agree.

Now do AD and Jrue and tell me how far over 5 games it goes, and then explain why you ONLY agree with the one that supports the HOU player but using the exact same calculations for the Pels players, you don't agree with.

Soooo boxed in right now.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35308 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:19 pm to
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Let me do some quick math for ya bro since you don't seem capable of doing it on your own.

Howard missed 41 games.

He averages 32 mpg being conservative.

Thats 1312 Minutes.
He averaged 29.8 last season so just adding 2.2 minutes per game is not in line with the most applicable data.
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His win share per 48 in HOU is .154
Again, his WS/48 last season was .140; this is the applicable data.
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Howard missed half of last season and they win 56 games. If they only win 5 more of the 41 games that D12 missed(conservative estimate), well that gives them 61.
Since you like back of a napkin math, why don't we get an estimate of the wins he would have added.

In the 41 games that Dwight played, Dwight had 3.6 Win Shares. Using that, we can estimate that he would contribute to 3.6 more wins in the 41 games he didn't play.

Now if you use Estimated Wins Added (EWA), we see that he added 5.3 wins, we can estimate that he would add 5.3 more wins, which is in line with your estimate.

So your estimate of 5 wins in reasonable; however, it is NOT a conservative estimate. 5 wins would be near the upper bound.
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