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re: Male Student is Possibly Raped; Gets Expelled for Sexual Assaut
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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she clearly was talking about the incident and the expected reaction with a "don't tell anyone" ending. that wasn't guilt from rape. that was remorse from an intentional act. now does that means she never withdrew consent? no, but she freely discusses the incident itself, so it's atypical for the scenario you laid out.
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and this girl used those interpretations of post-rape behavior to avoid the consequences for fricking her roomate's boyfriend
she puts a black eye on every rape victim who DOES go through those behavioral examples, and for that she needs to rot
No one on this board knows what happened in that room that night, but it is possible that she was raped. Just because she didn't behave the way you'd expect you think she needs to rot?
What do you think about her throwing his clothes, phone, etc in to the hallway and locking him out of the room immediately after he finished?
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:02 pm to VOLhalla
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There are very few times in my life when I've been drinking and wouldn't remember if someone forced my head down into their crotch.
If that's the case, then she could give consent, and he couldn't. That's assault. Again, you can't have it both ways.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:03 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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If that's the case, then she could give consent, and he couldn't. That's assault. Again, you can't have it both ways.
Just because you can remember what is happening doesn't mean you are sober enough to consent.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:03 pm to upgrayedd
You do agree it was the dude who was raped, correct?
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:04 pm to VOLhalla
She was raped???
What in the frick?
What in the frick?
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:05 pm to VOLhalla
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Just because you can remember what is happening doesn't mean you are sober enough to consent
Jesus Christ, you are really straining yourself. So what exactly is the threshold here? She was clearly aware and sober enough to remember the details, to initially consent, to throw him out, and then to stay up for another two hours with another guy.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:05 pm to VOLhalla
Conversely, if you are so drunk you can't remember anything, you are incapable of consenting. Right?
Now, explain how she obtained his consent before she performed oral sex on him.
Now, explain how she obtained his consent before she performed oral sex on him.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:07 pm to VOLhalla
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No one on this board knows what happened in that room that night, but it is possible that she was raped. Just because she didn't behave the way you'd expect you think she needs to rot?
How does a girl sucking on the dick of a guy who's passed out constitute him raping her? If I was to eat out a girl who had passed out on my bed would that be her raping me?
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:08 pm to upgrayedd
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VOLhalla told us the people react differently to rape. Some go to the police, a hospital, or even a friend. Others make a booty call and beg for more dick for 2 hrs so they can erase the memory. You just can't judge basic human nature like that.
I don't know this girl, maybe she likes to frick the pain away. Maybe she didn't even consider herself raped till she sobered up. Maybe it was all consensual and she was pissed that he blew too fast and she didn't get hers. There's all sorts of scenarios.
But I'm not going to blame someone for siding with her when he can't even say he didn't do it.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:09 pm to Darth_Vader
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If I was to eat out a girl who had passed out
"If", that's cute.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:09 pm to VOLhalla
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What do you think about her throwing his clothes, phone, etc in to the hallway and locking him out of the room immediately after he finished
So now you are picking and choosing actions that indicate rape. The others that don't indicated rape are easily dismissed by saying "not everyone reacts" the same.
What other possible reasons could she have for.throwing his shite out of the room? I can think of about 3 other scenarios where he pisses her off.
How many scenarios can I think of where she wants to bang another dude a few hours later? A few but non of them include rape.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:12 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Jesus Christ, you are really straining yourself. So what exactly is the threshold here? She was clearly aware and sober enough to remember the details, to initially consent, to throw him out, and then to stay up for another two hours with another guy
Good question. I don't think there is a clear threshold. Drunk sex is a very tricky subject. I don't have any clear answer for you. But both parties in this case were drinking.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:12 pm to VOLhalla
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maybe she likes to frick the pain away
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:12 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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You do agree it was the dude who was raped, correct?
If we're going to apply equal standards, yes.
If I had to make a personal judgement, I would say neither was raped.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:15 pm to VOLhalla
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They had both been drinking. It's possible that both were incapable of consenting, and that opens the doors to the both parties being drunk and having sex scenario.
So if both were incapable of giving consent, why was only one prosecuted for it?
Let's play the gender reverse game. Guy brings blackout and puking drunk girl back home. He "helps" her upstairs. He goes down on her in her questionable state. She shoves his head into her crotch after he takes a break because she "likes" it. Guy gets up and goes home to fool around with different girl.
According to you, the girl should be prosecuted for shoving his head on her crotch, right?
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:18 pm to LesMiles BFF
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So now you are picking and choosing actions that indicate rape. The others that don't indicated rape are easily dismissed by saying "not everyone reacts" the same.
What other possible reasons could she have for.throwing his shite out of the room? I can think of about 3 other scenarios where he pisses her off.
How many scenarios can I think of where she wants to bang another dude a few hours later? A few but non of them include rape.
I want to reiterate that I'm not saying she was definitely raped. I do think it is possible.
And I would like to state that I'm not about to make light of rape - it's a serious subject that hurts a lot of people. But maybe, in this one case, she tried to stop the blowjob, he pushed her head down, he finished moments later, and she really didn't think it was a big deal. Didn't phase her at all. She was pissed that he finished and was about to leave. She's still horny, gets another guy over there. She sobers up and realizes that she was technically raped.
Not saying that happened, but it's one of many scenarios that could've happened.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:19 pm to NYNolaguy1
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So if both were incapable of giving consent, why was only one prosecuted for it?
Let's play the gender reverse game. Guy brings blackout and puking drunk girl back home. He "helps" her upstairs. He goes down on her in her questionable state. She shoves his head into her crotch after he takes a break because she "likes" it. Guy gets up and goes home to fool around with different girl.
According to you, the girl should be prosecuted for shoving his head on her crotch, right?
If the guy said no, tried to push her away, and she pushes his head into her crotch, then yeah. That's rape.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:20 pm to VOLhalla
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I want to reiterate that I'm not saying she was definitely raped. I do think it is possible.
The problem is this is what the folks at Amherst know as well. They know it's "possible" she was raped but there's no definitive proof that she was rape. But that didn't stop them from ruining this poor dude's life.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:21 pm to VOLhalla
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I want to reiterate that I'm not saying she was definitely raped. I do think it is possible.
And I would like to state that I'm not about to make light of rape - it's a serious subject that hurts a lot of people. But maybe, in this one case, she tried to stop the blowjob, he pushed her head down, he finished moments later, and she really didn't think it was a big deal. Didn't phase her at all. She was pissed that he finished and was about to leave. She's still horny, gets another guy over there. She sobers up and realizes that she was technically raped.
Not saying that happened, but it's one of many scenarios that could've happened.
Sure, it could have happened. The evidence, in most reasonable peoples' view, is that it's bullcrap in taken in full context, but it certainly could have happened.
And "could have happened" should be nowhere near enough to expel this particular person from the university. These cases need to be taken entirely out of the hands of universities.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:21 pm to Darth_Vader
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The problem is this is what the folks at Amherst know as well. They know it's "possible" she was raped but there's no definitive proof that she was rape. But that didn't stop them from ruining this poor dude's life.
The problem with this guy's situation is that he didn't even attempt to deny it happened. That's what makes it hard to not side with the girl.
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