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re: Was Antman a failure?
Posted on 8/1/15 at 1:08 pm to tigerman03
Posted on 8/1/15 at 1:08 pm to tigerman03
So let's revisit this one:
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Not great news, but wait...
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Box Office: 'Ant-Man' Has Topped 'Green Lantern'
Not great news, but wait...
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Yet like many movies that find themselves on the defensive after opening weekend, Ant-Man did not wither and die after its first three days. At $234m and counting, it will soon surpass the $263m worldwide cume of The Incredible Hulk. It will eventually surpass the $353m cume of X-Men: First Class and the various totals of the first two Fantastic Four movies. Heck, inflation and 3D bump aside, it will likely surpass the $374m total of Batman Begins, the $391m total of Superman Returns, and the $385m cume of the first Star Trek. All of this, by the way, on a mere $130m budget, making it one of the cheaper “big” comic book superhero movies of the last fifteen years. And it’s not quite done yet. Domestically, it’s heading towards a $150m-$175m total, and worldwide is a frustratingly open question since it doesn’t open in Greece, China, and Japan until September. And this will be among the lower-grossing Marvel Studios films thus far. So much for superhero fatigue.
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For the moment, one of the lowest-grossing Marvel Studios movies is set to out-gross several X-Men films, and nearly every non-MCU comic book superhero movie not based around Batman, Superman, Wolverine, or Spider-Man on a budget about the size of what Sam Raimi spent on Spider-Man back in 2002. And they are doing that on an opening weekend that was all-too-similar to a number of lower-profile or outright lower-grossing comic book superhero movies from the last decade. Marvel’s alleged failures are still the envy of everyone else.
Posted on 8/1/15 at 7:20 pm to Freauxzen
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It will eventually surpass the $353m cume of X-Men: First Class and the various totals of the first two Fantastic Four movies. Heck, inflation and 3D bump aside, it will likely surpass the $374m total of Batman Begins
Good for Ant-man, but to be fair, these films were rebooting franchises that had become stale. Ant-man is in the midst of Marvels very successful run. Not exactly a fair comparison.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:59 pm to Freauxzen
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Despite the fact that some fans have argued that Ant-Man would be Marvel's first flop, they've very much been proved wrong over the past few weeks. This weekend, it earned an estimated $12.6 million, a figure which puts it at #3 behind new releases Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation and Vacation. It was thought that Minions (which has taken a big chunk out of its box office haul) would beat it, but Ant-Man has remained in front. Its current domestic total stands at $132.15 million.
Overseas it has earned $159.5 million, giving it a global total of $291.648 million. That means it's just a day or two away from $300 million, and seeing as it only cost $130 million to make, Marvel surely have to be considering giving the character a sequel. Ant-Man still hasn't opened in a number of key territories, including China and Japan.
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its going to pass $300m worldwide this week and it still has several territories to go. I now think my $335m prediction may have been too low.
here are the remaining territories it has yet to open in
08/12 - Italy
08/20 - South Korea
08/27 - Austria
09/17 - Greece
09/18 - China
09/19 - Japan
Here are what each MCU has made in those territories (all numbers from Box Office Mojo and The Numbers)
Iron Man
Italy - $11,035,006
China - $15,274,332
Japan - $8,658,784
Greece - $1,799,601
Austria - $1,018,284
S Korea - $25,169,783
Iron Man 2
Italy - $9,979,666
China - $7,919,827
Japan - $12,831,962
Greece - $1,572,625
Austria - $1,357,508
S Korea - $27,095,727
Iron Man 3
Italy - $20,910,968
China - $121,200,000
Japan - $25,185,661
Greece - $2,049,858
Austria - $3,524,852
S Korea - $64,211,513
Captain America: The First Avenger
Italy - $8,601,080
China - N/A
Japan - $3,431,374
Greece - $767,589
Austria - $721,073
S Korea - $3,814,179
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Italy - $9,732,200
China - $115,620,000
Japan - $6,628,830
Greece - $1,051,962
Austria - $1,345,894
S Korea - $30,177,601
Thor
Italy - $10,900,780
China - N/A
Japan - $5,737,436
Greece - $1,852,788
Austria - $1,665,346
S Korea - $14,791,773
Thor: The Dark World
Italy - $11,176,894
China - $55,340,000
Japan - $6,017,520
Greece - $1,267,903
Austria - $2,561,728
S Korea - $21,114,584
The Avengers
Italy - $22,012,517
China - $86,300,000
Japan - $45,256,010
Greece - $2,599,996
Austria - $3,175,739
S Korea - $50,683,851
The Avengers: Age of Ultron
Italy - $18,120,047
China - $240,120,000
Japan - $21,112,231
Greece - $1,393,399
Austria - $2,368,526
S Korea - $80,507,763
The Incredible Hulk
Italy - $6,460,290
China - $8,929,638
Japan - $1,692,037
Greece - $833,969
Austria - $414,620
S Korea - $6,383,794
Guardians of the Galaxy
Italy - $7,011,889
China - $96,470,000
Japan - $9,504,440
Greece - $703,988
Austria - $2,531,070
S Korea - $10,013,310
Looking at those numbers and excluding CA:TFA b/c it didn't open in China it seems that the worst case scenario for the take in those remaining territories would be Incredible Hulk numbers of about $20-$22m.
The most recent MCU films seem to indicate a conservative estimate for Ant Man should be about $35m in China, about $15m combined in Italy, Japan, South Korea, and a bonus would be about $2m from Austria and Greece combined.
It's possible that it could push up to $400m worldwide though I'm going to revise my original guess to $360.
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 5:00 pm
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