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re: Was Antman a failure?

Posted on 8/1/15 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 8/1/15 at 1:08 pm to
So let's revisit this one:

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Box Office: 'Ant-Man' Has Topped 'Green Lantern'


Not great news, but wait...

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Yet like many movies that find themselves on the defensive after opening weekend, Ant-Man did not wither and die after its first three days. At $234m and counting, it will soon surpass the $263m worldwide cume of The Incredible Hulk. It will eventually surpass the $353m cume of X-Men: First Class and the various totals of the first two Fantastic Four movies. Heck, inflation and 3D bump aside, it will likely surpass the $374m total of Batman Begins, the $391m total of Superman Returns, and the $385m cume of the first Star Trek. All of this, by the way, on a mere $130m budget, making it one of the cheaper “big” comic book superhero movies of the last fifteen years. And it’s not quite done yet. Domestically, it’s heading towards a $150m-$175m total, and worldwide is a frustratingly open question since it doesn’t open in Greece, China, and Japan until September. And this will be among the lower-grossing Marvel Studios films thus far. So much for superhero fatigue.


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For the moment, one of the lowest-grossing Marvel Studios movies is set to out-gross several X-Men films, and nearly every non-MCU comic book superhero movie not based around Batman, Superman, Wolverine, or Spider-Man on a budget about the size of what Sam Raimi spent on Spider-Man back in 2002. And they are doing that on an opening weekend that was all-too-similar to a number of lower-profile or outright lower-grossing comic book superhero movies from the last decade. Marvel’s alleged failures are still the envy of everyone else.


Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51880 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 7:20 pm to
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It will eventually surpass the $353m cume of X-Men: First Class and the various totals of the first two Fantastic Four movies. Heck, inflation and 3D bump aside, it will likely surpass the $374m total of Batman Begins


Good for Ant-man, but to be fair, these films were rebooting franchises that had become stale. Ant-man is in the midst of Marvels very successful run. Not exactly a fair comparison.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58184 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:59 pm to
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Despite the fact that some fans have argued that Ant-Man would be Marvel's first flop, they've very much been proved wrong over the past few weeks. This weekend, it earned an estimated $12.6 million, a figure which puts it at #3 behind new releases Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation and Vacation. It was thought that Minions (which has taken a big chunk out of its box office haul) would beat it, but Ant-Man has remained in front. Its current domestic total stands at $132.15 million.

Overseas it has earned $159.5 million, giving it a global total of $291.648 million. That means it's just a day or two away from $300 million, and seeing as it only cost $130 million to make, Marvel surely have to be considering giving the character a sequel. Ant-Man still hasn't opened in a number of key territories, including China and Japan.


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its going to pass $300m worldwide this week and it still has several territories to go. I now think my $335m prediction may have been too low.

here are the remaining territories it has yet to open in

08/12 - Italy
08/20 - South Korea
08/27 - Austria
09/17 - Greece
09/18 - China
09/19 - Japan


Here are what each MCU has made in those territories (all numbers from Box Office Mojo and The Numbers)

Iron Man
Italy - $11,035,006
China - $15,274,332
Japan - $8,658,784
Greece - $1,799,601
Austria - $1,018,284
S Korea - $25,169,783

Iron Man 2
Italy - $9,979,666
China - $7,919,827
Japan - $12,831,962
Greece - $1,572,625
Austria - $1,357,508
S Korea - $27,095,727

Iron Man 3
Italy - $20,910,968
China - $121,200,000
Japan - $25,185,661
Greece - $2,049,858
Austria - $3,524,852
S Korea - $64,211,513

Captain America: The First Avenger
Italy - $8,601,080
China - N/A
Japan - $3,431,374
Greece - $767,589
Austria - $721,073
S Korea - $3,814,179

Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Italy - $9,732,200
China - $115,620,000
Japan - $6,628,830
Greece - $1,051,962
Austria - $1,345,894
S Korea - $30,177,601

Thor
Italy - $10,900,780
China - N/A
Japan - $5,737,436
Greece - $1,852,788
Austria - $1,665,346
S Korea - $14,791,773

Thor: The Dark World
Italy - $11,176,894
China - $55,340,000
Japan - $6,017,520
Greece - $1,267,903
Austria - $2,561,728
S Korea - $21,114,584

The Avengers
Italy - $22,012,517
China - $86,300,000
Japan - $45,256,010
Greece - $2,599,996
Austria - $3,175,739
S Korea - $50,683,851

The Avengers: Age of Ultron
Italy - $18,120,047
China - $240,120,000
Japan - $21,112,231
Greece - $1,393,399
Austria - $2,368,526
S Korea - $80,507,763

The Incredible Hulk
Italy - $6,460,290
China - $8,929,638
Japan - $1,692,037
Greece - $833,969
Austria - $414,620
S Korea - $6,383,794

Guardians of the Galaxy
Italy - $7,011,889
China - $96,470,000
Japan - $9,504,440
Greece - $703,988
Austria - $2,531,070
S Korea - $10,013,310


Looking at those numbers and excluding CA:TFA b/c it didn't open in China it seems that the worst case scenario for the take in those remaining territories would be Incredible Hulk numbers of about $20-$22m.

The most recent MCU films seem to indicate a conservative estimate for Ant Man should be about $35m in China, about $15m combined in Italy, Japan, South Korea, and a bonus would be about $2m from Austria and Greece combined.

It's possible that it could push up to $400m worldwide though I'm going to revise my original guess to $360.
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 5:00 pm
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