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re: Ray Donovan
Posted on 9/15/15 at 8:26 am to Erin Go Bragh
Posted on 9/15/15 at 8:26 am to Erin Go Bragh
quote:I agree somewhat, but I put it more on Avi than anyone else. He was in charge of the cleanup yes? Also, why isn't the storage room with all of the "secrets" under a tad more security than a regular old public storage type place? The secrets and the hell that they could raise are priceless.
Finney is suppose to be a bright guy and yet after Ray takes the murder weapon Finney keeps the same incomplete fireplace set out. A smart guy would have replaced that set immediately.
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Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:14 pm to supatigah
quote:Yes. And has the item been thoroughly cleaned for DNA? If so, who cares? If not, wtf? No way it hasn't and there can be any credibility to the show.
why would Avi rent a storage unit in his own name at a sketchy place and leave something so valuable there for someone to find?
Overall, good episode with a lot of developments setting the stage nicely, and that typical Ray Donovan feeling where the shite is all about to hit the fan at the same time.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:38 am to USMCTiger03
Without a body the ex-FBI guy has nothing.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:33 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 9/16/15 at 8:23 am to htownjeep
quote:
I put it more on Avi than anyone else
Everything about the fireplace poker seems wrong. The poker and the body are Ray's leverage against Finney. He would not have entrusted Avi to simply store it in public storage. That thing would have been in a fireproof safety deposit box.
Sending Avi to Mexico under the dead guys name was also foolish. Why create a lead for authorities to follow? The body could have been buried in 1,000 different settings that did not require Avi's face to be recorded.
But Finney keeping the very fireplace set that produced the murder weapon is the most obvious wtf. Destroy the remaining set and Ray loses his leverage.
The missing eight million dollars had to be moved electronically. Records follow money. That would not have been as easy as it was dipicted without Finney being aware of his son-in-law's banking information. If Finney moved that money into one of his own accounts that would be real easy to determine.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 9:55 pm to Erin Go Bragh
Another solid episode. WAY too short though. Next week is the finale. Should be interesting.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 11:58 pm to razorbackfan4life
I hate Ray's family, dislike every single one of them.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 12:22 am to smash williams
quote:No shite. Goddamn they suck.
I hate Ray's family, dislike every single one of them.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 12:30 am to razorbackfan4life
Less than 45 minutes, wtf? Next week looks great but they could've given us another 10 minutes his week
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 12:32 am
Posted on 9/21/15 at 4:28 am to smash williams
quote:Every single one.
I hate Ray's family, dislike every single one of them.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:08 am to smash williams
quote:
I hate Ray's family
There's not a single redeeming value to be found among the lot of them. The dimwitted daughter threatening to run away if Ray hurts her teacher should have been the perfect time to say, "let me help you pack."
Every character in this show is seriously flawed.
What is stopping Cochran from going to the hospital with Ray's bullet in his leg and telling the police Ray shot him? Ballistics will confirm the bullet came from Ray's gun. He hates Ray and blames him for ruining his FBI career.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:21 am to Jay Quest
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What is stopping Cochran from going to the hospital with Ray's bullet in his leg and telling the police Ray shot him? Ballistics will confirm the bullet came from Ray's gun. He hates Ray and blames him for ruining his FBI career.
I was wondering that too. Am I forgetting something besides the sex video that Ray might have on him? There has to be something else about himself that he doesn't want getting out if he turns in Ray, that's the only reason I can think of
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:38 am to jchamil
quote:
. Am I forgetting something besides the sex video that Ray might have on him?
I think that's all Ray has on him. Cochran seems obsessed with Ray and his career is shot. I can't come up with any reason for not reporting the shooting.
I also don't see Finney getting convicted for his son-in-law's murder. All they have is the daughter's testimony and she can be shredded by a competent defense attorney.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:34 pm to Jay Quest
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also don't see Finney getting convicted for his son-in-law's murder
There is simply no evidence that could persuade a jury to convict him. That made Ray's ability to flip Finney's daughter all the more suspect. Ray has a dead body and Ray has a murder weapon but Ray has no capacity to link either to Finney.
The only way Finney could be implicated is to prove he moved the eight million dollars. That's a possibility.
Finney, in all likelihood would never be indicted and the daughter just screwed herself.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 4:50 pm to Erin Go Bragh
quote:
Ray has a dead body and Ray has a murder weapon but Ray has no capacity to link either to Finney.
Did Finney get rid of the rest of the fire set that the poker went with? I'm not sure what kind of credibility he has, but at least Cochran had seen the set missing the poker
Posted on 9/21/15 at 4:52 pm to Erin Go Bragh
How does this show not get more love (on this board)? This season has been fantastic. Can't wait for the finale!
Posted on 9/21/15 at 6:57 pm to smash williams
quote:
I hate Ray's family
Hate them all except Mickey. He's a big piece of shite but might be the best and most interesting character on television right now.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 11:33 pm to Jay Quest
Yeah I can't figure the Cochran angle. I was thinking either rough him up and release him with some shite hanging over his head or else kill him. But shooting him and then letting him go, I don't know. And the body and murder weapon in Finney's dumpster also. 
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:31 am to Jay Quest
Im sure Ray shot him with a throw down piece that isn't in his name and then ditched the gun.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 8:24 am to jchamil
quote:
Did Finney get rid of the rest of the fire set that the poker went with?
I believe the incomplete fireplace set is still in Finney's den. Even so, the poker that will be found with the body will be severely burned and perhaps unidentifiable. Even if it's identified as the murder weapon it still doesn't tie back directly to Finney as the user.
With the legal talent Finney can muster I don't see his conviction being a slam dunk.
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