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re: My Biggest Beefs With Breaking Bad
Posted on 7/9/15 at 4:46 am to LoveThatMoney
Posted on 7/9/15 at 4:46 am to LoveThatMoney
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I'm not making a circular argument at all. I'm saying that even the scene that you claim "doesn't make sense" is an illustration of the point that you can't grasp.
OMG. Start making sense!! My point is that it's a repeatable process and my point is correct. What in the world are you claiming is an illustration that it isn't merely a repeatable process? Oh that's right...the part Gale and Walt get different purities.
That's a circular argument, and I mean it's like a textbook example. So either you don't know what that is, or you don't understand how it is that the stuff you're saying qualifies as such. Those are the only two options.
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No one has agreed with you or given you a proverbial head nod.
ReauxTide222 was dropping mad Proverbs up in this thread's prequel, yo
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There is no common ground to be seen. There is the correct ground and then there's your ground.
See above. I believe there are like two others, but i"m not looking any further as the number of cosignors/dissenters is an independent variable vis a vis the question of whether Walt's method was completely masterable after, say, 50 or so cooks. And while there are countless looks into the various aspects of this process,and literally zero of them can be even passably argued as requiring skill or expertise in the execution thereof, you are claiming that the show illustrates proof that it is something other than simply a repeatable process because -- wait for it -- gale only got 93%.
Oh yes. Eureka! The part of the show where nobody can get a purity as high as Walt makes total sense, you see, because it clearly establishes that nobody can get a purity as high as Walt's.
Please don't reply and claim I'm a dick. The visual aid is a nice illustrative tool,and one that was quite obviously needed here.
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https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/blogs/67492/2013/06/127024-126515.jpg
I'm pretty sure if you write these same paragraphs three more times, byt that third time they'll be right. No no, fourth. We'll play it safe.
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 5:00 pm to SystemsGo
How is it circular reasoning to say that the show specifically stated that the reason Jesse couldn't get the same purity is because it isn't just: follow these steps and presto! you get 98% purity?
That's not circular reasoning. I'm not saying that Jesse couldn't get the same purity because Jesse couldn't get the same purity. I'm saying that Jesse couldn't get the same purity because, as shown by the show repeatedly, it isn't a matter of simply following the steps.
This is a non-fricking-issue.
Go back and watch the show and tell me there isn't a single instance where they don't explicitly say why Jesse can't make as pure a cook. And, assuming arguendo that they don't, tell me you can't, with your tiny brain, deduce the reason behind it. A fricking five year old understands the reason: like all "recipes," complications arise in the cooking process; Walt adjusts for them, Jesse doesn't, because Walt knows chemistry and Jesse doesn't. This is harped on throughout the entire show.
Again, this is a non-issue and is a matter of common sense.
ReauxlTide222's remarks:
This does not say shite. The show goes to great lengths to demonstrate how difficult it is to create a nearly 100% pure meth. In fact, in the first season, Jesse loses his fricking mind at the purity since he can only get something like 50% or less (I can't remember exact numbers). This isn't a job that pays $80k a year because it is a job that pays $1M per batch. His arguments are as inane as yours and basically discount much of the structure that is set up in the show, not because it is not believable within the confines of the show, but because he can't wrap his brain around it in any context.
And lastly, if my arguing is circular, then certainly yours is. Essentially, you are saying: It's a recipe and, therefore, repeatable because it's a recipe and, therefore, repeatable. I mean seriously.
ETA: and now I'm going to request an anchor for this shitty thread.
That's not circular reasoning. I'm not saying that Jesse couldn't get the same purity because Jesse couldn't get the same purity. I'm saying that Jesse couldn't get the same purity because, as shown by the show repeatedly, it isn't a matter of simply following the steps.
This is a non-fricking-issue.
Go back and watch the show and tell me there isn't a single instance where they don't explicitly say why Jesse can't make as pure a cook. And, assuming arguendo that they don't, tell me you can't, with your tiny brain, deduce the reason behind it. A fricking five year old understands the reason: like all "recipes," complications arise in the cooking process; Walt adjusts for them, Jesse doesn't, because Walt knows chemistry and Jesse doesn't. This is harped on throughout the entire show.
Again, this is a non-issue and is a matter of common sense.
ReauxlTide222's remarks:
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Yep.
And the idea that that nobody else around can cook great meth is nuts to me. We aren't talking about some job that pays 80k a year. This is an industry that makes millions and millions of dollars. And Walter White is the only guy who had the precision to take the time and effort to do the process correct? Ok
3 people in the story can get above 90%. And one of them is a HIGHLY troubled frickup. Right.
This does not say shite. The show goes to great lengths to demonstrate how difficult it is to create a nearly 100% pure meth. In fact, in the first season, Jesse loses his fricking mind at the purity since he can only get something like 50% or less (I can't remember exact numbers). This isn't a job that pays $80k a year because it is a job that pays $1M per batch. His arguments are as inane as yours and basically discount much of the structure that is set up in the show, not because it is not believable within the confines of the show, but because he can't wrap his brain around it in any context.
And lastly, if my arguing is circular, then certainly yours is. Essentially, you are saying: It's a recipe and, therefore, repeatable because it's a recipe and, therefore, repeatable. I mean seriously.
ETA: and now I'm going to request an anchor for this shitty thread.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 5:01 pm
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