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re: Manieri's uncomfortable interview in the Advocate
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:57 am to Keltic Tiger
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:57 am to Keltic Tiger
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Every pitcher on the staff was given multiple opportunities all during the season to step up & earn a bigger role, and each, as he stated, failed to do so consistently. And, yes, Vandy & TCU does have a decided financial advantage when it comes to recruiting & that was mentioned during the series by KP.
People just have a problem with Mainieri telling the truth because it might hurt players' feelings. And I still think people intentionally misinterpret things he says and intentionally blow them out of proportion because they simply are frustrated with the end results of the season. Listen to any interview Mainieri gives after a tough loss. He always opens up by saying how bad he feels for his players and how hard they worked and how unfortunate it was the end result wasn't better, not to take away from all the great accomplishments they made during the season. He talks about hating to say goodbye to a great group off players. This happens every. single. year. But, our fans, who are pissed we didn't win the NC, will choose to magnify comments he makes later on when he gets into specifics of why we lost and what could have possibly prevented us from being better or winning the NC, not as if there wasn't an explanation of why we lost and "we're LSU, we hate losing, we strive to win every game we play, we'll be better, etc etc etc." Mainieri, unlike most coaches, actually gives you insight on what he feels were the deficiencies of the teams specifically, how dare he. He says the same things that are discussed on here right after a loss, but he's not supposed to say those things because he's the coach? gtfo. Sorry if an 18-21 year old kid can't take it. If they want to become professionals one day, they should get used to it. if they're too sensitive to take criticism, life is going to be very difficult for them. (I think they handle what he says just fine)
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 11:02 am
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Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:02 am to Tiger79
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Coach Bertman
Skip has been gone bout 15 yrs and the college baseball of today is much more competitive than what Skip and his teams faced.
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That's what CPM is concerned with not
You do realize the "Postseason" record of LSU baseball since 07 includes 4 CWS visits...don't you.
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If we don't at least make it to the championship game next year CPM needs to go.
Really??? You honestly think there is a chance in hell that LSU will release a HC who will have taken teams to the CWS 50% of his yrs. here if he doesn't reach the final 2 of college baseball???
Some of this stuff is just too funny!
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:03 am to Catman88
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doesn't change the fact that teams like ULL are doing just as well with far far less talent
remind me how many times ULL has made the CWS since Mainieri has been coach. I'll hang up and listen, but seriously, are you drunk?
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 11:05 am
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:06 am to Catman88
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At some point it's the responsibility of the coach to recruit players that will play for him and then when they are here make them better players.
and at some point it's also the responsibility of the players to be able to make a simple throw from the pitcher's mound to 1st base and not completely lose their minds after making an error, but yes it's easy to win championships
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 11:08 am
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:13 am to Keltic Tiger
The expectation at LSU is a championship every year. In Mainieri's defense, that is very hard to do. Coming into the year, everyone would have accepted a trip to Omaha and a top 5 finish. Losing home regionals to Houston and Stony Brook is not acceptable. Not making the NCAA tournament is not acceptable. The criticism is warranted when you have 5 unacceptable results in 9 years. 6 if you count the 2&Q trip in 2013.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:14 am to Penrod
Local guys in 104.5 radio mentioned during CWS that Vandy had about 30 kids on "specialty" scholarships. Evidently it gets pretty creative with minority or leadership scholarships. I have to admit, Vandy has more minority baseball players than anyone else in SEC. Not an excuse, but I think that was PM's point on the matter.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:25 am to lsufball19
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remind me how many times ULL has made the CWS since Mainieri has been coach
2 Super Regionals in the last 2 years is pretty good with a team no where near as talented as LSU.
What Super Regional did LSU play in last year? Remind me..
Maybe you are just too dense to get the point. ULLs talent level vs LSU is vastly different. ULL is overperforming why?? Good coaching maybe???
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:27 am to lsu711
Claims recruiting disadvantage....
Top 5 class last 4 years including #1 in 2014
Claims lack of experience did in bullpen...
Misuses Newman and Bugg, and Reynolds doesn't throw a single pitch in the CWS. Instead chooses Godfrey for most pivotal point in a lose or go home game. Lowest ERA on team outside of Bouman who didn't even make the trip.
Claims lack of power arms reason for losing CWS... Throwing Poche under bus
Virginia wins CWS with lefty throwing 85.
Claims Vandy and TCU being private gives them a leg up which somehow is supposed to mean something to LSU...
Vandy and Rice only two private schools to win CWS in last 25 years.
The saddest part? This is typical PM. Not even surprised. POS.
Top 5 class last 4 years including #1 in 2014
Claims lack of experience did in bullpen...
Misuses Newman and Bugg, and Reynolds doesn't throw a single pitch in the CWS. Instead chooses Godfrey for most pivotal point in a lose or go home game. Lowest ERA on team outside of Bouman who didn't even make the trip.
Claims lack of power arms reason for losing CWS... Throwing Poche under bus
Virginia wins CWS with lefty throwing 85.
Claims Vandy and TCU being private gives them a leg up which somehow is supposed to mean something to LSU...
Vandy and Rice only two private schools to win CWS in last 25 years.
The saddest part? This is typical PM. Not even surprised. POS.
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 11:29 am
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:29 am to lsu711
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The expectation at LSU is a championship every year. In Mainieri's defense
My expectation is that LSU make the CWS and show up and not embarrass the university while there because the fricking coach pulls his pitchers while they are doing great.
My expectation is that a coach that makes decisions that are critical to the outcome of the game and makes just completely inexcusable decisions take some of the blame LONG before he throws a player under the bus.
I dunno maybe my expectations are if you are a coach that throws a player under the bus DURING the game when not even asked about the subject. Then the same coach decides with the season on the line to have said player bat instead of a PH. I dunno.. Maybe I expect the coach to ACCEPT some heat for his decision rather than go after the players..
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:30 am to Catman88
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2 Super Regionals in the last 2 years is pretty good with a team no where near as talented as LSU.
What Super Regional did LSU play in last year? Remind me..
Maybe you are just too dense to get the point. ULLs talent level vs LSU is vastly different. ULL is overperforming why?? Good coaching maybe???
Mainieri has made 4 CWS. ULL has made zero. So they made it to a supe one year where LSU didn't? Holy shite. They still don't even come close to the success LSU has had during Mainieri's tenure
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ULL is overperforming why??
why, because they've made the NCAAT 4 times since 2007?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:30 am to ell_13
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The saddest part?
he didn't start Krob
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:33 am to LSUGoose
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Local guys in 104.5 radio mentioned during CWS that Vandy had about 30 kids on "specialty" scholarships.
Here is an article from 2010 talking about Vandy's financial aid process. Vandy uses its own formula to determine a family's Estimated Financial Contribution (EFC) to the yearly cost to attend (about $57,000 at the time of the article), and the rest is covered by Vanderbilt. Any academic or other scholarship money that is available comes out of Vandy's contribution, not the family.
The example used in the article is a kid whose family can pay $10k a year would then receive $47k a year in assistance. Basically, if a kid is accepted into Vandy, and his family is willing to pay its share, he can afford to go to the school. About 60 percent of Vandy's students were getting some degree of financial aid at the time of the article. That is a huge advantage when recruiting baseball players, who usually only get one-third of a full scholarship.
LINK
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:34 am to lsufball19
Where were these excuses during the regular season? Why is it we have 13 3-game series throughout the year (which we are 10-3 in), yet don't have a fricking plan when we play 3 games in 5 days?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:35 am to lsufball19
You really are a complete and utter fricking moron if you believe that I compared LSU's success to ULLs.
Maybe you can understand this..
I DO NOT believe that Mainieri can make it to 2 Super Regionals in the last 2 years with ULLs recruits.
Maybe you can understand this..
I DO NOT believe that Mainieri can make it to 2 Super Regionals in the last 2 years with ULLs recruits.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:35 am to lsufball19
Huh?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:35 am to recruitnik
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fanbase shits all over their own logo any time they get a chance.
Toonces sucked
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:37 am to LSU Wayne
In baseball, you know the sport Mainieri coaches?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:37 am to Catman88
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You really are a complete and utter fricking moron if you believe that I compared LSU's success to ULLs.
that's exactly what you did. your post
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doesn't change the fact that teams like ULL are doing just as well with far far less talent
now, if you didn't mean what you said, that's fine.
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I DO NOT believe that Mainieri can make it to 2 Super Regionals in the last 2 years with ULLs recruits
you mean like building a program at Notre Dame and making it to Omaha?
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 11:40 am
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:38 am to lsusteve1
My favorite part was when he blamed poor base running on the teams ability to steal more bases. 
wtf????
wtf????Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:43 am to lsufball19
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doesn't change the fact that teams like ULL are doing just as well with far far less talent
Yea because making it to the Super Regionals and giving LSU a run for its money with what 1 player drafted vs a team with almost the entire starting lineup drafted but only won 2 more games in the NCAA tourney the SR..
isn't "just as well or overperforming"
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you mean like what he did at Notre Dame?
Wait so ULL out recruits Notre Dame?? Maybe the do Im not sure.. Hey why didn't CPM have the advantages of Vandy and Stanford at Notre Dame??
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