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re: Cigar Smokers of the OT
Posted on 6/13/15 at 5:59 pm to Cornholio
Posted on 6/13/15 at 5:59 pm to Cornholio
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Exactly, people like different cigars, who would've thunk it. Touchdownjeebus sounds like a fricking jackass
Yeah, the fricking irony too. Douchebag rudely calling out another poster for recommending what is in fact a good smoke.
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 11:58 pm to USMCTiger03
the guy asks about a good mild to medium stick and he suggests a full body, overpriced yard gar. yes, people like different things, but that doesn't make them good. The Italia is widely considered a poor stick, with subpar tobacco, poor construction, and uneven burn. Even at it's highest rating, it rarely breaks the mid 80s which is pretty bad, all things considered.
Feel free to read dealer reviews and get less than an honest opinion, or read real reviews from guys in the industry. General ruined the CAO label, much like I suspect Swisher will ruin my favorite label, the Liga/Unico series. Knowing cigars doesn't make you a douche. Leaving gaudy, real/faux cuban, etc bands on your sticks and waving them in everyone's face makes you a douche.
Want to try a few cheap cigars that will blow your doors off?
Curivari
Southern Draw
low end Olivas
Nat Sherman 1830 Rothschilds
Antilles
Any one of these bury the Italia. Like I said before, the Basin was a very good, VERY GOOD stick, but it's impossible to find, and the only thing CAO has produced worth a shite in a very long time.
The Italia is the Natty light of cigars. There are some very good recommendations in this thread, but that ain't one of them.
Feel free to read dealer reviews and get less than an honest opinion, or read real reviews from guys in the industry. General ruined the CAO label, much like I suspect Swisher will ruin my favorite label, the Liga/Unico series. Knowing cigars doesn't make you a douche. Leaving gaudy, real/faux cuban, etc bands on your sticks and waving them in everyone's face makes you a douche.
Want to try a few cheap cigars that will blow your doors off?
Curivari
Southern Draw
low end Olivas
Nat Sherman 1830 Rothschilds
Antilles
Any one of these bury the Italia. Like I said before, the Basin was a very good, VERY GOOD stick, but it's impossible to find, and the only thing CAO has produced worth a shite in a very long time.
The Italia is the Natty light of cigars. There are some very good recommendations in this thread, but that ain't one of them.
This post was edited on 6/14/15 at 12:12 am
Posted on 6/14/15 at 1:04 am to USMCTiger03
quote:
a good smoke.
Last post on CAO and "a good smoke".
General has ruined the line. Many reviews you are referring to were written before the acquisition, and or on previous stock. The CAO you smoked a few years ago is not the same as you will smoke today. Go to an old school cigar shop and ask if they have any original CAO sticks, and they will know exactly what you are asking for.
Here is a link that identifies the beginning of the end:
LINK
Here is a link that identifies the desecration of whatever was left:
LINK
CAO went from a boutique that produced some really good cigars to a subpar product. General changed the blends with meh tobacco, went cheap on the wrapping leaf, started to mass produce them and they lost what made them good.
Camacho (and this makes me so damn sad) is going through the same thing now. Davidoff bought the line and changed the blend, made it cheaper. The Camacho triple maduro was a blow your doors off stick that comes around once in a blue moon. It is now nasty. Oliva is rumored to be next, and Drew Estates was recently bought by Swisher.
This is what makes brands like Fuente is damn special. Rarely will you ever get a bad Fuente. The quality control is insanely good, and something that a company like General is just not interested in.
Hopefully the latest rounds of great boutiques will stay independent. Tatuaji and Illusione are doing some amazing things.The Surrogates Animal Cracker is another exciting stick as is the CroMagnon line. AKA does some good work and Jay Lundy is a good guy (for a Texan). If you can get your hands on the AKA 2011 Respect, buy as many as you can, amazing sticks. La Palina, especially stuff coming out of the Miami factory (goldie, Mr. Sam) is very good.
If you want to drink Natty light, have at it, but are you going to suggest it if someone wants a good beer? Yeah, people have different tastes and no one taste is "right or wrong" but Natty light =/= Chimay.
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