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re: Game of Thrones S5E7 - "The Gift" Book Readers Thread - Spoilers!!
Posted on 5/25/15 at 7:49 pm to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 5/25/15 at 7:49 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Maybe Melisandre's suggestion is what drives her back to The Wall to be there when Jon Snow gets stabbed to hell and back.
This. It would be interesting to see if she can use her powers to bring someone back and not to kill someone.
Alternatively, after last night I wouldn't mind seeing Stannis get a hold of Theon somehow - ala the WoW book excerpt. He is a son of Balon Greyjoy after all who styled himself as a king at one time and was one of the "5 kings". It would almost be a mercy to Theon for him to be sacrificed.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 7:52 pm to Methuselah
Yep, I think Mel will realize that Stannis isn't AA for refusing to sacrifice his daughter and will return to the Wall (just in time to save Jon Snoo).
Another interesting theory I've seen is that Jon gets stabbed at Hardhome and left for the Walkers only to be brought back by them and Benjen. That's out there though.
Another interesting theory I've seen is that Jon gets stabbed at Hardhome and left for the Walkers only to be brought back by them and Benjen. That's out there though.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 7:53 pm to Methuselah
I know we area are afield from the books in some respects, but didn't Mel expressly disclaim being able to bring people back in the books? Something along the lines of each red priest/priestess has their own gift, and hers is sight.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 8:21 pm to FalseProphet
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I know we area are afield from the books in some respects, but didn't Mel expressly disclaim being able to bring people back in the books? Something along the lines of each red priest/priestess has their own gift, and hers is sight.
I dunno. I remember her being kind of impressed that Thoros could do it because she considered him just a drunk and a fake. But I think that may have just been in the show not the books.
I do know that she has other powers than sight - making people appear to be someone else (glamouring), surviving the poison that killed Stannis' maester, birthing shadow babies, etc.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 8:36 pm to Methuselah
What about the idea that Jon is a Targareyan and his body will probably be burned by the NW? Could that be the resurrection avenue?
Posted on 5/25/15 at 8:36 pm to Methuselah
By far the best episode of the season. Not a wasted scene in the bunch.
First off, Jonathan Pryce has been amazing as the High Sparrow this season. Every scene he is in he completely dominates. Loved that he's already taken down Cersei, and the bitch is about a reap what she's sewn all these years.
Secondly, it was sad to see Aemon go and think they did his death well. Also like how brave Sam has really become and I really think may be the bravest character in the series.
Next, thank God Tyrion has met with Dany. This is one plot line I am glad they are speeding up on and wish GRRM had done this in the books.
With the Sansa/Reek plotline, I really wish Theon had not ratted on her and started his redemption in this episode, but sadly it didn't happen.
First off, Jonathan Pryce has been amazing as the High Sparrow this season. Every scene he is in he completely dominates. Loved that he's already taken down Cersei, and the bitch is about a reap what she's sewn all these years.
Secondly, it was sad to see Aemon go and think they did his death well. Also like how brave Sam has really become and I really think may be the bravest character in the series.
Next, thank God Tyrion has met with Dany. This is one plot line I am glad they are speeding up on and wish GRRM had done this in the books.
With the Sansa/Reek plotline, I really wish Theon had not ratted on her and started his redemption in this episode, but sadly it didn't happen.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 8:55 pm to OMLandshark
I mentioned to my Hodor friend maybe LF councils Tommen now and he told me to shut up because I read the books and didn't want spoilers
Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:04 pm to Byron Bojangles III
OK,this is not an intricate observation on a plot point.
But damn, that one Septa that was blocking Cersei's retreat from the High Sparrow could give Brienne a run for her money in size/imposing presence. Or at least she could play tight end for most DI football teams.
But damn, that one Septa that was blocking Cersei's retreat from the High Sparrow could give Brienne a run for her money in size/imposing presence. Or at least she could play tight end for most DI football teams.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:14 pm to OMLandshark
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First off, Jonathan Pryce has been amazing as the High Sparrow this season. Every scene he is in he completely dominates.
He's always been a brilliant, yet underrated actor - at least in American cinema/television.
He's one of the best actors to date to appear on the show. Dance (Tywin), Pryce and Rigg (Queen of Thorns) probably top 3, although Dinklage has done extremely well as Tyrion - the scene with Rigg and Pryce has been the high point of acting for this season.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:35 pm to Ace Midnight
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He's always been a brilliant, yet underrated actor - at least in American cinema/television.
He's one of the best actors to date to appear on the show. Dance (Tywin), Pryce and Rigg (Queen of Thorns) probably top 3, although Dinklage has done extremely well as Tyrion - the scene with Rigg and Pryce has been the high point of acting for this season.
He does do a great job of making the high sparrow believable and giving a hint as to his total motivations.
I'd say Dance probably has turned in the best performance so far. But yes, Dinkledge has been great. Hedley has been very good. Sean Bean did a good job of making it look like he was going to be the show lead until the penultimate episode of S1. Maise Williams has been good.
And I think the actors who play Bronn and Jorah do excellent jobs with portraying their similar but oh so different characters.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:37 pm to Ace Midnight
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He's one of the best actors to date to appear on the show. Dance (Tywin), Pryce and Rigg (Queen of Thorns) probably top 3, although Dinklage has done extremely well as Tyrion - the scene with Rigg and Pryce has been the high point of acting for this season.
Jack Gleeson was fantastic playing Joffrey also. I put him near the top.
This post was edited on 5/25/15 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:39 pm to weagle99
Anyone else notice that when they were speaking over Aemon's body they did not say 'We shall never see his like again?' I think they have said that for every other Night's Watch funeral.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:43 pm to Methuselah
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And I think the actors who play Bronn and Jorah do excellent jobs with portraying their similar but oh so different characters.
And I don't want to be mistaken - the level of acting for the show is very high, overall, with just a few misses and almost none on recurring characters - just the occasional throwaway roles. Lancel and Sansa probably have the weakest actors of folks we see on a regular basis, and neither is terrible. Of course, now Lancel doesn't say much, so that may be "intensity".
I want to give Headey some credit, but the whole role is a softball pitch - she ought to be crushing it and instead, she's hitting doubles and triples.
And the kids have been alright to even better than alright. I also agree Maise has been good - probably the standout "child" actor (she's grown now), but, again, that role completely sets her up and she is fairly well cast (well, when she WAS still a kid she was well cast.)
Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:53 pm to Ace Midnight
The casting has been on point but they really screwed up Loras.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:57 pm to Methuselah
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He does do a great job of making the high sparrow believable and giving a hint as to his total motivations.
Do we know what these are?
Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:59 pm to Azazello
Oberyn was clearly cast the best.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:08 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Do we know what these are?
No. That's the great thing. I'm not sure even he knows totally. If I remember a couple of episodes ago he made a comment that the "Gods are testing/tempting me" or something along those lines. I think on some level he wants what's best for the realm/the people. On some level he's a religious fanatic. And on some level he is susceptible to the whole "power corrupts" thing.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:10 pm to Ace Midnight
Heck, the acting on the show is what sets it apart from most every other show. It's not just a select few that carry it, but everyone seems to be so well cast. As FTH is quick to point out, even the guy that plays Ramsey was perfectly cast, and is mesmerizing, in a creepy as hell kind of way, in all of his scenes.
You can say what you want to about D & D, but they have absolutely nailed the casting throughout the life of this show.
You can say what you want to about D & D, but they have absolutely nailed the casting throughout the life of this show.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:58 pm to Bamatab
I think Headey has done a fantastic job so far. I lover her smug looks when she makes her moves that always backfires. She is so amused by how good she thinks she is.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 11:05 pm to Bamatab
Agreed. With the exception of the Sand Snakes. Although, this last episode they redeemed themselves a little bit with the nudey scene...
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