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UW prospects question - why did their D kinda suck?
Posted on 4/20/15 at 10:48 am
Posted on 4/20/15 at 10:48 am
Something bothering me about University of Washington prospects. First, let me clarify that I know team results don't always speak for the individual. Even on an awful defense like the Saints were last year, it’s possible to have individuals, play at a Pro Bowl or even All Pro level.
This is more a question than anything.
So in looking at prospect rankings and mock drafts, there are several highly ranked Huskies projected to go in the first or second round:
1. Danny Shelton
2. Shaq Thompson
3. Marcus Peters
4. Hau'oli Kikaha
So why was their defense pretty mediocre?
They were 47th in points against.
Conversely, Clemson which also has several highly rated prospects was one of the top defenses in the country statistically:
1. Vic Beasley
2. Stephone Anthony
3. Grady Jarrett
Again, there are a million reasons this could be possible- high scoring offenses in Pac 10, etc, Peters getting kicked off the team, etc.
Just seems weird to me that a D with so many highly touted prospects underperformed so badly.
This is more a question than anything.
So in looking at prospect rankings and mock drafts, there are several highly ranked Huskies projected to go in the first or second round:
1. Danny Shelton
2. Shaq Thompson
3. Marcus Peters
4. Hau'oli Kikaha
So why was their defense pretty mediocre?
They were 47th in points against.
Conversely, Clemson which also has several highly rated prospects was one of the top defenses in the country statistically:
1. Vic Beasley
2. Stephone Anthony
3. Grady Jarrett
Again, there are a million reasons this could be possible- high scoring offenses in Pac 10, etc, Peters getting kicked off the team, etc.
Just seems weird to me that a D with so many highly touted prospects underperformed so badly.
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 11:10 am
Posted on 4/20/15 at 10:55 am to ghost2most
It's a good question; the only thing that comes to mind is that there was a coaching change and maybe new schemes.
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Posted on 4/20/15 at 10:56 am to ghost2most
Could be almost anything. For example scheme. Maybe their coordinator just couldn't match the offense with the right scheme. Maybe they were weak in certain areas like defensive back. Maybe their conditioning wasn't the best or the other team just wanted it more. Remember football games aren't won on paper. These players have different motivations. Sometimes chemistry isn't there
Posted on 4/20/15 at 10:56 am to ghost2most
Peters missed most of last year after being kicked off. Shaq played a lot of offense for them, which limited his defensive snaps. Haiku got hurt and missed some time last year as well. And I'm guessing here since I don't know anything about Washington football, but maybe the rest of their defense sucked.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 10:59 am to ghost2most
39th in points allowed
2nd in sacks
17th in TO
16th in red zone Def
1st DEF TD's
pretty good id say
2nd in sacks
17th in TO
16th in red zone Def
1st DEF TD's
pretty good id say
Posted on 4/20/15 at 11:20 am to ghost2most
They had a new coach and the other 7 players probably weren't NFL material. Just a guess
Posted on 4/20/15 at 11:23 am to ghost2most
Reminds me of the 2013 draft with Georgia's defensive players:
-Jarvis Jones (1)
-Alec Ogletree (1)
-John Jenkins (3)
-Shawne Williams (3)
-Sanders Comming (5)
-Cornelius Washington (6)
-Bacarri Rambo (6)
-Jarvis Jones (1)
-Alec Ogletree (1)
-John Jenkins (3)
-Shawne Williams (3)
-Sanders Comming (5)
-Cornelius Washington (6)
-Bacarri Rambo (6)
Posted on 4/20/15 at 12:41 pm to ghost2most
Same could be and has been said about LSU after watching Jeremy Hill, Odell Beckham, & Jarvis Landry tear it up and players like Alfred Blue and Zach Mettenberger having their moments as well
Posted on 4/20/15 at 5:39 pm to ghost2most
In 2010, aTm was ranked in the 70s in points per game and much lower in yards per game on defense. Von Miller turned out to be okay. Auburn's defense wasn't much better, but Nick Farley is okay.
LSU had the #3 defense that year. Patrick Peterson is awesome. But Kelvin Sheppard, Drake Nevis, and Pep Livingston haven't really lit up the NFL.
I see what you are saying, but I don't think it's definitive on who someone will turn out in the NFL.
LSU had the #3 defense that year. Patrick Peterson is awesome. But Kelvin Sheppard, Drake Nevis, and Pep Livingston haven't really lit up the NFL.
I see what you are saying, but I don't think it's definitive on who someone will turn out in the NFL.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:55 pm to ghost2most
All them great QBs in the pac 10
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