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Plus 5 members of Ned's party was killed at the tower, plus his sister. And they certainly knew that Arthur Dayne was there, since it's well known Ned returned Dawn to Starfall where Ashara Dayne killed herself.

Yes, but it's not know whether Ned told Ashara Dayne where Author Dayne was killed and why.

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If I had to take a guess why Ashara killed herself, when the Tyrells and Redwynes were defeated at Storm's End, Ashara knew where her brother was and why he was there, and sent a raven to Ned in order to get her brother spared. When Ned more or less came alone to the Tower of Joy instead of an army at his back, that is why Arthur had a sad smile on his face, knowing that Ashara sent him the message on where to find him, but also that he meant to do this honorably. When Ned returned with Dawn, she felt as if she directly killed her brother, and the man she loved killed her brother, so she killed herself.

Maybe. Or she isn't dead. Or she killed herself because Ned refused her and decided to return to Catelyn.

I'm just not sure as many people know of the circumstances of the TOJ as assumed. And if they knowledge is only held by Ned and Reed, then Tywin wouldn't have anyway of knowing.

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Posted by OMLandshark

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Posted on 4/20/15 at 10:00 am to Antonio Moss

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Who would be keeping tabs? The Kingsguard left KL with Rhaegar. From there, only Rhaegar would have authority to position them.

Sure Rhaegar would be the only person who for sure knew where each and every member of the Kingsguard was at the time of the Trident, but people would still be keeping tallies on where each Kingsguard was last seen and they'd hunt them down. If say Arthur Dayne escaped with Prince Viserys, this would be a problem that they had to deal with. It's not as if once they sacked King's Landing that they forgot about the missing 3 members of the Kingsguard. They'd hunt them down for sure.

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Yes, but it's not know whether Ned told Ashara Dayne where Author Dayne was killed and why.

We know he returned Dawn (even Cersei knows this)

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I'm just not sure as many people know of the circumstances of the TOJ as assumed. And if they knowledge is only held by Ned and Reed, then Tywin wouldn't have anyway of knowing.

There are some things highly suspicious about the Tower of Joy, like how did Ned know they were there? He knew he'd find Rhaegar's rightful heir there since he didn't come with an entire army. I just think Tywin should have been shrewd and calculating enough to figure this out.

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Posted by Ace Midnight

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Posted on 4/20/15 at 10:12 am to Antonio Moss

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The Kingsguard left KL with Rhaegar.

Aerys II's Kingsguard during Robert's Rebellion:

Dayne - was with Rhaegar at the Tower of Joy

Oswell Whent - ditto

Hightower - Lord Commander, he went to the ToJ to retrieve Rhaegar when things went badly. He was ordered to stay at ToJ with Dayne and Whent while Rhaegar took command of the army in the field.

Llewyn Martell - Killed at the Trident with Rhaegar

Barristan Selmy - Wounded, but survived the Battle at the Trident

Jonothor Darry - Killed at the Trident.

Gwayne Gaunt - Killed at Duskendale (The Defiance)

Jaime Lannister - was left to guard Aerys II - killed him, instead, for reasons many of us know, and earned the title Kingslayer

Ser Harlan Grandison had died earlier and Jaime was his replacement.

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