Meh. He doesn't make the men much better. Men end up being better fighters in war than rulers in peace.

Even Ned Stark was so naive and gullible as to the way the "real world" works, i.e. King's Landing, he didn't see the walls caving in on all sides until his people had paid a high price - and this is the guy he hints at as being the best choice for king when Aerys II was killed.

Thus far, Tywin and Doran (and, before I forget, Tyrion) are about the only competent "national" level leaders we've seen, even they each had/have flaws as well.

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Posted by blueboy

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Posted on 4/20/15 at 1:25 pm to Ace Midnight

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Even Ned Stark was so naive and gullible as to the way the "real world" works, i.e. King's Landing, he didn't see the walls caving in on all sides until his people had paid a high price - and this is the guy he hints at as being the best choice for king when Aerys II was killed.

As I said in the MG thread, there's a reason the Starks are the only family that's been around for 8000 years, and was never conquered by the Andals. People hate on Ned for being honorable, but no other family inspires that kind of loyalty. It's based on their honor. It might get them killed sometimes, but they survive.

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Posted by Bard

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Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:04 am to Ace Midnight

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Thus far, Tywin and Doran (and, before I forget, Tyrion) are about the only competent "national" level leaders we've seen, even they each had/have flaws as well.

The books seem to be setting Tommen up to have good potential. I figure he'll get the Margaery Curse and die once they get married though.

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