re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens Teaser #2 (Spolierish Discussions)

jedi just hasn't held up as well into adult hood

you see lucas reusing ideas and shots from the first movie and just repackaging it for this one. The ewoks are in there to sell toys, plain and simple

so after we've been battered with the prequels people kind of see the same shite to a far lesser degree in 'jedi'

vader's role in jedi really is the beginning of the biggest fault in the prequels. so all of a sudden vader is being set up for a redemption. He doesn't choke anyone, or kill anyone, etc. after going hog wild in empire. vader is important to us, and lucas lets that seep into 'jedi' and then goes full retard in the prequels with virginal birth and stupid prophecies.

if he's so important, then why does the emperor call him a slave while he's right there and treat him like shite in front of other people? he's like a lap dog, not some key to the galaxy. and when he's not fricking taking care of business (killing rebels and jedi and attempting to turn powerful jedi) then he's no fricking good. He doesn't do shite in the movie until the throne room with luke. beyond the light saber fight in jedi (a great one, and those scenes are awesome) he just stands around like a retard not doing anything, with no clear motivation

empire is best because the characters are stronger, but things are way more clearer. Luke is the clear protagonist and his goal is to become a jedi, vader is the clear antagonist and his mission is to find the "jedi" who destroyed the death star and either kill him like the rest or turn him into an asset.

in the original things aren't discombobulated at all, but in jedi things are kind of muddied...the prequels don't even have a fricking protagonist in one of the fricking movies and the antagonist appears briefly, his goal not revealed until his plan has played out, I mean it just sucks

and after watching all of that shite, you can see the roots of the prequels in 'return of the jedi'