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Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:50 pm to Speys and Tays
quote:Oh boy. You're my favorite kind of New Orleanian. No offense, but it's quite a reach to assume that I ever had some aspiration of being viewed as a hip New Orleans insider, much less after living in New York for 10 years. Some of you guys crack me up.
it sounds more like someone taking an alternate opinion for the sake of sounding like an insider, really isn't, and like most will never understand.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 1:43 pm to lsunurse
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NOLA is just a really fun city to visit, couldn't ever live there though.
thats really fricking original Nurse...couldnt come up with anything on your own so you just had to regurgitate a bumper sticker?
Posted on 3/30/15 at 1:48 pm to The Sad Banana
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There is talk of I-10 being dropped over Claiborne north of the US 90/I-10 interchange. The I-10 will cease to exist from that point to I-610. Then, I-610 will likely be renamed I-10 and Claiborne will be widened and upgraded where I-10 used to be. The section of I-10 from the southern I-610 split to the US 90/I-10 split will then become I-49 once that all comes to pass many moons from now. That's the idea anyway.
Do you have a link on this? I would be interested in reading more about this plan.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 1:51 pm to kingbob
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There is talk of I-10 being dropped over Claiborne north of the US 90/I-10 interchange. The I-10 will cease to exist from that point to I-610. Then, I-610 will likely be renamed I-10 and Claiborne will be widened and upgraded where I-10 used to be. The section of I-10 from the southern I-610 split to the US 90/I-10 split will then become I-49 once that all comes to pass many moons from now. That's the idea anyway.
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Do you have a link on this? I would be interested in reading more about this plan.
they've been talking about that for years
Posted on 3/30/15 at 1:52 pm to tgrbaitn08
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they've been talking about that for years
I don't live in New Orleans, so please pardon my ignorance.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:03 pm to kingbob
I tried google searching and got a couple sporadic articles from from local organizer groups and a few old Nola.com articles.
The argument is that the elevated freeway section of I-10 over Claiborne has divided the neighborhoods in Treme and the French Quarter.
The highway is elevated.
Elevated.
Meaning, you can easily walk beneath it.
The argument is dumb, but as far as infrastructure goes widening Claiborne and removing that shitty section of I-10 wouldn't be the worst idea. What's great is that it would create a good bit of engineering as I-610 would have to be upgraded and Claiborne itself would need to be upgraded.
I don't understand how eliminating a freeway that you can walk under and widening a street below it (make it wider and harder to cross) unites neighborhoods.
The argument is that the elevated freeway section of I-10 over Claiborne has divided the neighborhoods in Treme and the French Quarter.
The highway is elevated.
Elevated.
Meaning, you can easily walk beneath it.
The argument is dumb, but as far as infrastructure goes widening Claiborne and removing that shitty section of I-10 wouldn't be the worst idea. What's great is that it would create a good bit of engineering as I-610 would have to be upgraded and Claiborne itself would need to be upgraded.
I don't understand how eliminating a freeway that you can walk under and widening a street below it (make it wider and harder to cross) unites neighborhoods.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:08 pm to The Sad Banana
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I tried google searching and got a couple sporadic articles from from local organizer groups and a few old Nola.com articles.
The argument is that the elevated freeway section of I-10 over Claiborne has divided the neighborhoods in Treme and the French Quarter.
The highway is elevated.
Elevated.
Meaning, you can easily walk beneath it.
The argument is dumb, but as far as infrastructure goes widening Claiborne and removing that shitty section of I-10 wouldn't be the worst idea. What's great is that it would create a good bit of engineering as I-610 would have to be upgraded and Claiborne itself would need to be upgraded.
I don't understand how eliminating a freeway that you can walk under and widening a street below it (make it wider and harder to cross) unites neighborhoods.
It seems silly, but it's true, and has been true in many parts of the country. The only man-made things more divisive than elevated interstates are canals and interstates at grade. A great example of this concept is Mid-City/Downtown Baton Rouge. Look at one side of I-110 and then look at the other. It's like night and day in most spots despite the fact that one can easily walk under it. It's like that all over the country.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:14 pm to ballscaster
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ballscaster
Matthew McConaughey: New Orleans is 'a big, beautiful mess' quote: it sounds more like someone taking an alternate opinion for the sake of sounding like an insider, really isn't, and like most will never understand. Oh boy. You're my favorite kind of New Orleanian. No offense, but it's quite a reach to assume that I ever had some aspiration of being viewed as a hip New Orleans insider, much less after living in New York for 10 years. Some of you guys crack me up.
I was speaking of MM not you, was actually agreeing with you on him reaching for words for something he doesn't really understand. No offense taken by me actually think you're one of the more intelligent posters here whether I agree or not with what you say. To me whether NOLA or NYC when visiting I try to do a few things, see the city as a non tourist as much as possible, take it as it is without comparing to others, and leave regional bias at home. Having ttraveled extensively my favorite place is always the one I am at currently with a few notable exceptions in the Mideast and mid America.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:15 pm to kingbob
Well, one could counterpoint that and tell you to look at the Warehouse District and Lower Garden District. I walk under that bridge all the time to go downtown or into the WD.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:18 pm to The Sad Banana
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I don't understand how eliminating a freeway that you can walk under and widening a street below it (make it wider and harder to cross) unites neighborhoods.
Well for one thing, the shelter afforded by the elevated freeway attracts homeless, panhandlers, bums, drifters, and other fun folks with nowhere else to be...
FWIW, this is what it Claiborne looked like before I-10:
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:26 pm to tgrbaitn08
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"The hours trickle by here. Tuesday and Saturday are more similar here than any other place I've ever been. The seasons slide into one another without any status quo. Yes, it is the Big Easy, home of the shortest hangover on the planet, where libation can greet you on Monday morning with the same smile as it did on Saturday night.
Man's a poet.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:27 pm to Speys and Tays
Ahh, I see. Sorry for sounding like a douche.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:32 pm to 995webmaster
quote:I don't know how much I'll ever buy into that idea (the social part about dividing neighborhoods). I don't hate eliminating the interstate there as I-610 is a more direct route for people going through the city. US 90 will be renamed or upgraded to I-49 as it comes from the West Bank and back down the bridge to connect up with I-10 by the big pump station.
Well for one thing, the shelter afforded by the elevated freeway attracts homeless, panhandlers, bums, drifters, and other fun folks with nowhere else to be...
FWIW, this is what it Claiborne looked like before I-10
I get the idea from an engineering standpoint, but I don't buy the "dividing neighborhoods" thing.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:46 pm to tgrbaitn08
There was someone on my facebook (who lives in fecking Florida of all places) who tore this speech to shreds saying that MM was basically saying that NOLA is garbage. Oh he was real mad.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:49 pm to Salmon
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but I'll say the entire state of Michigan outdoor activities >>>>> entire state of LA outdoor activities
I disagree. Sure I like skiing, but maybe one weekend out of the year. I really don't care for snow. So when talking about living somewhere, I jus could not do it. And I'll enjoy doing outdoor activities in the winter down in the south. I guess shoveling snow is a great way to get outdoors.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 3/30/15 at 2:50 pm to I Ham That I Ham
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New Orleans is trashy..keep your "culture" I much prefer Little Rock
We're better for it.....stnodb
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:44 pm to CocoLoco
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Michigan has great music history (Detroit especially), but I'd take New Orleans over it easily.
New Orleans over Detroit music? I couldn't disagree with a statement more.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:47 pm to 12Pence
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New Orleans over Detroit music? I couldn't disagree with a statement more.
You think Detroit is a better music city than New Orleans?
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