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Trading up to #7 with Chicago?
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:29 am
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:29 am
I saw this yesterday in one of the mocks. Chicago is targeting Cooper and Shelton. If both are gone the Saints trade the #13 and a 2nd Rounder next year in order to take Dante Fowler, DL/ OLB. This gives us a joker that can move around and play the 3,4,or 5 Techs and Outside LB. Ryan needs some versatility upfront and Fowler would be highly valued on the Saints board.
This is all a big if Fowler is even there and both Shelton & Cooper come off before the #7 pick. The Bears still have a shot to grab Gregory and possibly Beasley at the #13 spot.
This is all a big if Fowler is even there and both Shelton & Cooper come off before the #7 pick. The Bears still have a shot to grab Gregory and possibly Beasley at the #13 spot.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 11:30 am
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:32 am to TOKEN
Who's mock? I highly doubt fowler is available at 7. He's considered the 2nd best defensive prospect in this draft. I'd like it, but there's no legitimate situation in my mind that he's there.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:35 am to TOKEN
I really don't want the Saints to trade up.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:37 am to htran90
LINK
Obviously there are some BIG IFS, but Philly would be the wild card by basically coming in to get their QB while moving Bradford to Tennessee.
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Fox's Second NFL Mock Draft Of 2015
1. Tampa Bay: Jameis Winston, QB Florida State. Unless something truly odd happens between now, Winston will be the pick #1. If Tampa gets cold feet, then it will be Mariota.
2. Philadelphia (from Tennessee, Tennessee gets pick 20, Sam Bradford, a 2016 1st, a 2015 2nd and 4th round picks): Marcus Mariota, QB Oregon. The Eagles are going to make a trade involving their first round pick and them getting a QB. They would prefer not to pay this much, but Kelly is all in and desperate enough to believe the rumors that the Titans want Mariota.
3. Jacksonville: Kevin White, WR West Virginia. Picks 3 and 4 could flip flop, but the more the Jags don’t do something like deal for Adrian Peterson (which is possible), the more it looks like this pick will be Kevin White. Don’t be shocked if and when they deal back into the first round for a defensive player or another offensive talent who's dropped.
4. Oakland: Leonard Williams, DL Southern Cal. If Williams isn’t here, they almost certainly take the best WR available. Despite all their investing on the defense, they’ll keep investing in it. Del Rio believes in building your defense from inside out and they need another DT to go with Dan Williams.
5. Tennessee (from Washington, Washington gets pick 20, Zach Mettenberger, Tennessee’s natural 2nd and 4th round picks): Amari Cooper, WR Alabama. The Titans are flush with picks and need to give Bradford some tools. Cooper is a good, polished WR prospect that has been in the draft in a while. The Redskins move out of this pick because they want to increase their assets, perhaps to trade back up.
6. New York Jets: Danny Shelton, DT Washington. They have great DEs. They don’t have anything more than big bodies at the nose tackle position. Shelton takes them from “very good defensive line” to “amazing defensive line that might be able to change a game by itself.” And allows them to low ball Muhammad Wilkerson in his new contract talks.
7. New Orleans (from Chicago, Chicago gets pick #13 and a 2016 2nd rounder): Dante Fowler, Jr DL/OLB Florida. The Saints need a joker for that defense. And by that, the author means a guy that can move around the defensive formation. Fowler can play OLB rusher for them, 5 Tech DE and 3 Tech DT in a 4 front look. And he’ll keep coming at the QB/RB every single play. That's why they dealt up for him. The Bears dealt down because they’re top two targets (Amari Cooper and Danny Shelton) are gone and maybe Randy Gregory makes it to 13.
8. Atlanta: Trae Waynes, CB Michigan State. It’s him or Gregory here. Quinn probably remembers that the Legion of Boom was more responsible for his success in Seattle than the rushers were. And Bruce Irvin was the highest draft pick that the Seahawks made on that defensive line.
9. New York Giants: Randy Gregory, DE/OLB Nebraska. A pure best player available pick here. They have George Selvie and Jason Pierre-Paul under contract but Steve Spagnuolo knows that they need at least three front line rushers and JPP could walk in a year.
10. Washington (from St Louis, Rams get pick 20 and Washington’s natural 2nd, Washington also gets a 5th round pick): Brandon Scherff, OL Iowa. Scot McCloughan gets the guy he wanted all along, moves up in the 2nd round, gets Zach Mettenberger and a couple mid round picks for his trouble. His next move will be to ship RG3 off somewhere.
11. Minnesota: Ron Darby, CB Florida State. They would have loved to see Waynes end up here but Atlanta deprived them of the opportunity. Darby is quietly rising among the decision makers, especially those who want a press/physical CB for a chance to badly imitate the Seattle defensive backs.
12. Cleveland: Eddie Goldman, DL Florida State. They need to move Phil Taylor somewhere. either to another team or out to 3 Tech in their line. Goldman is a massive load of a player and will fit in quickly.
13. Chicago (from New Orleans): Bud Dupree, OLB/DE Kentucky. Chicago still is without a 0 Technique nose tackle option worthy of the pick or a WR that they like. After calling around, they take the best player available on their board. Dupree is a guy that Vic Fangio might be able to mold into Aldon Smith without the arrests.
14. Miami: Marcus Peters, CB Washington. Worst kept secret in the NFL is that Miami will jump all over the best CB available.
15. San Francisco: Vic Beasley, OLB/DE Clemson. The 49ers need a lot of things. They need to figure out their offensive line situation, they need to replace Justin Smith, they need to think if Aldon Smith is in their plans and they need defensive talent regardless. Beasley is a best player available pick and allows them to move Aldon Smith or Ahmad Brooks to fill another need.
Obviously there are some BIG IFS, but Philly would be the wild card by basically coming in to get their QB while moving Bradford to Tennessee.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 11:40 am
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:39 am to TOKEN
I can 100 percent see Philly doing that.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:40 am to TOKEN
Ronald Darby at 11? Wtf?! The highest I've seen him mocked was 31 or so.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:40 am to TOKEN
13 and a 2016 2nd would make me think about it because that's not bad for 6 spots
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:42 am to TOKEN
The first Two picks in that draft are gonna happen but after that this mock sucks arse! Fowler won't make it past The Redskins at 5
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 11:44 am
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:43 am to TOKEN
Stupid phone double posted it!!!
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 11:52 am
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:44 am to LosLobos111
The Jets don't need Fowler but is it plausible they take Shelton at #6?
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:46 am to Meateye
Would take it but doubt it happens.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:47 am to Meateye
meateye, i was just reading some updated mock draft insider material, had the draft going l ike this now
tampa jameis
tennessee leonard
jacksonville lael
oakland gurley
tampa jameis
tennessee leonard
jacksonville lael
oakland gurley
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:53 am to Chad504boy
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jacksonville lael
oakland gurley
Never gonna happen
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:55 am to goatmilker
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Would take it but doubt it happens.
Who knows but Philly is coming up to get their QB and I wouldn't bet against it. Who actually thinks Bradford is going to be on Philly?
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:58 am to Meateye
Tennessee gets:
Bradford
2015 1st (20)
2015 2nd (52)
2015 4th (113)
2016 1st
Tennessee sends:
Mettenberger
2015 1st (20)
2015 2nd (33)
2015 4th (100)
Ultimately Tennessee gets:
Bradford
Cooper
2016 1st
move back in the 2nd and 4th
So you're telling me, tennessee literally moved back 3 places to 5 just to get a 2016 1st, Bradford, and move back 19 spots in the 2nd and 13 spots in the 4th...all for Cooper
That is the dumbest thing I've heard all day. This is a draft full of lets just move people around for 'x' draft picks to look fancy
Bradford
2015 1st (20)
2015 2nd (52)
2015 4th (113)
2016 1st
Tennessee sends:
Mettenberger
2015 1st (20)
2015 2nd (33)
2015 4th (100)
Ultimately Tennessee gets:
Bradford
Cooper
2016 1st
move back in the 2nd and 4th
So you're telling me, tennessee literally moved back 3 places to 5 just to get a 2016 1st, Bradford, and move back 19 spots in the 2nd and 13 spots in the 4th...all for Cooper
That is the dumbest thing I've heard all day. This is a draft full of lets just move people around for 'x' draft picks to look fancy
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:11 pm to TOKEN
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Who knows but Philly is coming up to get their QB and I wouldn't bet against it. Who actually thinks Bradford is going to be on Philly?
Ive been saying they were gonna trade up to the 2 spot for months.
*Chip Kelly goes down as the worst hire in years. Hes already dismantled a team that was one or two pieces away from being real contenders to where they are about to be the joke of the league. Watch what Im telling you, its going to happen.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:22 pm to TOKEN
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3. Jacksonville: Kevin White, WR West Virginia. Picks 3 and 4 could flip flop, but the more the Jags don’t do something like deal for Adrian Peterson (which is possible), the more it looks like this pick will be Kevin White. Don’t be shocked if and when they deal back into the first round for a defensive player or another offensive talent who's dropped.
This makes no sense. They have a ton of young talent at WR and I don't see how and AP trade would change what they do at WR in the draft. And they aren't trading for AP either way
The frick is vavel.com?
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:27 pm to TOKEN
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This gives us a joker that can move around
We def need a joker that can do that. As is, our jokers aren't versitle enough to even be considered jokers. It's a freaking joke if you ask me.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:35 pm to Brageous
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I can 100 percent see Philly doing that.
It's so believable that you expect it to happen. Kelly is not a good poker player!
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